In this episode of HELLO FUTURE, host Kevin Cirilli sits down with Mattie Duppler to cut through the hype and examine what the data actually says about AI’s impact on jobs, productivity, and the future of work.

While generative AI is boosting productivity and accelerating learning curves (especially for less experienced workers), the picture is more complicated than “robots taking all the jobs.” Mattie breaks down why early-career employment in AI-exposed fields has already declined 16% relative to pre-AI trends, why college graduate unemployment for ages 23–27 has risen from 3.25% in 2019 to 4.59% in 2025, and why heavy AI users are paradoxically more likely to quit their jobs than light users.

She also explores what isn’t changing: employee values around meaningful work, flexibility, and career development remain remarkably stable. Mattie offers a clear-eyed fiscal and labor market perspective on how organizations and policymakers should respond — and why simply reskilling workers without rethinking early-career pathways and incentive structures won’t be enough.

In this episode of HELLO FUTURE, host Kevin Cirilli sits down with Mattie Duppler to cut through the hype and examine what the data actually says about AI&rsquo;s impact on jobs, productivity, and the future of work.
While generative AI is boosting productivity and accelerating learning curves (especially for less experienced workers), the picture is more complicated than &ldquo;robots taking all the jobs.&rdquo; Mattie breaks down why early-career employment in AI-exposed fields has already declined 16% relative to pre-AI trends, why college graduate unemployment for ages 23&ndash;27 has risen from 3.25% in 2019 to 4.59% in 2025, and why heavy AI users are paradoxically more likely to quit their jobs than light users.
She also explores what isn&rsquo;t changing: employee values around meaningful work, flexibility, and career development remain remarkably stable. Mattie offers a clear-eyed fiscal and labor market perspective on how organizations and policymakers should respond &mdash; and why simply reskilling workers without rethinking early-career pathways and incentive structures won&rsquo;t be enough.

HELLO, FUTURE with Kevin Cirilli is the daily podcast where tomorrow’s biggest questions come alive. Are aliens already visiting us? Could your next job be in space? What if satellites could find lost cities, or stop the next wildfire? What happens if America loses the space race… or if every satellite went dark tomorrow? From Mars to UFOs, from flying cars to “civilization starter kits,” each episode blends science, technology, and imagination with the real choices shaping our world. It’s smart, fast, and curious, built for anyone who’s ever looked up at the night sky and wondered what comes next. This isn’t science fiction. It’s the future, knocking on your door. 

Kevin Cirilli is the founder of meet the future™ (mtf.tv). Cirilli has advised some of the nation’s leading military nonprofit philanthropists and policymakers and he is an emerging playwright. As a journalist, he is the former Chief Washington Correspondent for Bloomberg Television and Radio, where he covered the White House, Congress, and global economic policy while anchoring a daily geopolitical business affairs program.

Before founding mtf.tv, Kevin appeared across nearly every major network — including CBS News, MSNBC, CNN, FOX News, C-SPAN, NPR, and Yahoo Finance — providing nonpartisan political and economic analysis and conducting exclusive interviews with some of the most influential figures of the 21st century. He was also a media fellow at the Atlantic Council in the Global China Hub.

He has reported from across the United States and around the world — including assignments in Israel, Vietnam, and Saudi Arabia — covering pivotal moments in global affairs and the people driving change.

HELLO, FUTURE with Kevin Cirilli&nbsp;is the daily podcast where tomorrow&rsquo;s biggest questions come alive. Are aliens already visiting us? Could your next job be in space? What if satellites could find lost cities, or stop the next wildfire? What happens if America loses the space race&hellip; or if every satellite went dark tomorrow? From Mars to UFOs, from flying cars to &ldquo;civilization starter kits,&rdquo; each episode blends science, technology, and imagination with the real choices shaping our world. It&rsquo;s smart, fast, and curious, built for anyone who&rsquo;s ever looked up at the night sky and wondered what comes next. This isn&rsquo;t science fiction. It&rsquo;s the future, knocking on your door.&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-cirilli-943b162a/">Kevin Cirilli</a>&nbsp;is the founder of meet the future&trade; (mtf.tv). Cirilli has advised some of the nation&rsquo;s leading military nonprofit philanthropists and policymakers and he is an emerging playwright. As a journalist, he is the former Chief Washington Correspondent for Bloomberg Television and Radio, where he covered the White House, Congress, and global economic policy while anchoring a daily geopolitical business affairs program.
Before founding mtf.tv, Kevin appeared across nearly every major network &mdash; including CBS News, MSNBC, CNN, FOX News, C-SPAN, NPR, and Yahoo Finance &mdash; providing nonpartisan political and economic analysis and conducting exclusive interviews with some of the most influential figures of the 21st century. He was also a media fellow at the Atlantic Council in the Global China Hub.
He has reported from across the United States and around the world &mdash; including assignments in Israel, Vietnam, and Saudi Arabia &mdash; covering pivotal moments in global affairs and the people driving change.

HELLO FUTURE with Kevin Cirilli

In this episode of HELLO FUTURE, host Kevin Cirilli sits down with Mattie Duppler to cut through the hype and examine what the data actually says about AI’s impact on jobs, productivity, and the future of work.

HELLO FUTURE: AI Is Changing Work — But Not the Way You Think

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