Indonesia has set an ambition to become a high-income economy by 2045. Is this possible? Two McKinsey experts discuss how it could be and what actions would need to be taken to achieve it. 

Indonesia has set an ambition to become a high-income economy by 2045. Is this possible? Two McKinsey experts discuss how it could be and what actions would need to be taken to achieve it.&nbsp;

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Propelling Indonesia's productivity: Reaching high income by 2045

How do founders keep the entrepreneurial spirit that built their companies while adding the structure needed to grow? In this episode, host Jennifer Chiang speaks with Gautam Kumra, chairman of McKinsey Asia and co-founder of the McKinsey Center for CEO Excellence, about his new book, Shapers and Founders: The Untold Stories of Asia’s Extraordinary Owner-CEOs, co-authored with Cheryl Lim and Joydeep Sengupta. 

Kumra reflects on the ways owner-CEOs professionalize without creating bureaucracy so that they can scale while staying nimble. He also explores how founders approach succession, what it takes to build an institution that outlasts them, and the careful calibration behind their boldest moves.  

Shapers and Founders: The Untold Stories of Asia’s Extraordinary Owner-CEOs reveals the leadership strategies behind Asia’s highest-performing entrepreneur-led companies. Drawing on hours of interviews and rigorous empirical research, this book uncovers the core behaviors and governing mindsets that have powered Asia’s rise. To find out more and order, visit www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/mckinsey-on-books/shapers-and-founders. 

How do founders keep the entrepreneurial spirit that built their companies while adding the structure needed to grow? In this episode, host Jennifer Chiang speaks with Gautam Kumra, chairman of McKinsey Asia and co-founder of the McKinsey Center for CEO Excellence, about his new book, Shapers and Founders: The Untold Stories of Asia&rsquo;s Extraordinary Owner-CEOs, co-authored with Cheryl Lim and Joydeep Sengupta.&nbsp;
Kumra reflects on the ways owner-CEOs professionalize without creating bureaucracy so that they can scale while staying nimble. He also explores how founders approach succession, what it takes to build an institution that outlasts them, and the careful calibration behind their boldest moves. &nbsp;
Shapers and Founders: The Untold Stories of Asia&rsquo;s Extraordinary Owner-CEOs reveals the leadership strategies behind Asia&rsquo;s highest-performing entrepreneur-led companies. Drawing on hours of interviews and rigorous empirical research, this book uncovers the core behaviors and governing mindsets that have powered Asia&rsquo;s rise. To find out more and order, visit <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/mckinsey-on-books/shapers-and-founders">www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/mckinsey-on-books/shapers-and-founders</a>.&nbsp;

Shapers and Founders: Scaling without losing soul

What core behaviors and governing mindsets guide Asia’s highest-performing owner-CEOs? In this episode, host Jennifer Chiang speaks with Joydeep Sengupta, a McKinsey senior partner and co-founder of the McKinsey Center for CEO Excellence, about the interviews behind his new book, Shapers and Founders: The Untold Stories of Asia's Extraordinary Owner-CEOs, co-authored with Gautam Kumra and Cheryl Lim.  

After a year of conversations with the region's top entrepreneurs, Sengupta reflects on the ideas that stayed with him, from their ability to hold contradictory ideas at once to a hiring philosophy built on character over resume. He traces these traits back to centuries-old regional philosophies fused with Western management practice. What would change if more leaders adopted an owner mindset, wherever they sit in a company? 

Shapers and Founders: The Untold Stories of Asia’s Extraordinary Owner-CEOs reveals the leadership strategies behind Asia’s highest-performing entrepreneur-led companies. Drawing on hundreds of hours of interviews and rigorous empirical research, this book reveals the core behaviors and governing mindsets that have powered Asia’s rise. To find out more and preorder, visit www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/mckinsey-on-books/shapers-and-founders.

What core behaviors and governing mindsets guide Asia&rsquo;s highest-performing owner-CEOs? In this episode, host Jennifer Chiang speaks with Joydeep Sengupta, a McKinsey senior partner and co-founder of the McKinsey Center for CEO Excellence, about the interviews behind his new book, Shapers and Founders: The Untold Stories of Asia's Extraordinary Owner-CEOs, co-authored with Gautam Kumra and Cheryl Lim. &nbsp;
After a year of conversations with the region's top entrepreneurs, Sengupta reflects on the ideas that stayed with him, from their ability to hold contradictory ideas at once to a hiring philosophy built on character over resume. He traces these traits back to centuries-old regional philosophies fused with Western management practice. What would change if more leaders adopted an owner mindset, wherever they sit in a company?&nbsp;
Shapers and Founders: The Untold Stories of Asia&rsquo;s Extraordinary Owner-CEOs reveals the leadership strategies behind Asia&rsquo;s highest-performing entrepreneur-led companies. Drawing on hundreds of hours of interviews and rigorous empirical research, this book reveals the core behaviors and governing mindsets that have powered Asia&rsquo;s rise. To find out more and preorder, visit www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/mckinsey-on-books/shapers-and-founders.

Shapers and Founders: Understanding the owner mindset

Across Asia, founder-led companies create outsized value compared with professional CEOs. Is this edge something founders are born with or something they build? In this episode, host Jennifer Chiang speaks with Cheryl Lim, a McKinsey partner based in the Kuala Lumpur office and co-author of Shapers and Founders: The Untold Stories of Asia’s Extraordinary Owner-CEOs.

Drawing on interviews with founders across the region, Lim reflects on the traits that recur regardless of industry or background: curiosity, a commitment to relationship-building, and the ability to hold a big-picture vision and daily execution in mind at once. 

Shapers and Founders: The Untold Stories of Asia’s Extraordinary Owner-CEOs reveals the leadership strategies behind Asia’s highest-performing entrepreneur-led companies. Deriving insights from hours of interviews and rigorous empirical research, this book reveals the core behaviors and governing mindsets that have powered Asia’s rise. To find out more and preorder, visit www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/mckinsey-on-books/shapers-and-founders.

Across Asia, founder-led companies create outsized value compared with professional CEOs. Is this edge something founders are born with or something they build? In this episode, host Jennifer Chiang speaks with Cheryl Lim, a McKinsey partner based in the Kuala Lumpur office and co-author of Shapers and Founders: The Untold Stories of Asia&rsquo;s Extraordinary Owner-CEOs.
Drawing on interviews with founders across the region, Lim reflects on the traits that recur regardless of industry or background: curiosity, a commitment to relationship-building, and the ability to hold a big-picture vision and daily execution in mind at once.&nbsp;
Shapers and Founders: The Untold Stories of Asia&rsquo;s Extraordinary Owner-CEOs reveals the leadership strategies behind Asia&rsquo;s highest-performing entrepreneur-led companies. Deriving insights from hours of interviews and rigorous empirical research, this book reveals the core behaviors and governing mindsets that have powered Asia&rsquo;s rise. To find out more and preorder, visit <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/mckinsey-on-books/shapers-and-founders">www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/mckinsey-on-books/shapers-and-founders</a>.

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