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Mark Video is a world renowned animal behavior a dog trainer and educator who has been working with animals for over forty years. He's a trained animal psychologist and created the Dogs In online training program. He's about to launch Katz and Katzen rather and he joins us once a month on Ask the Experting. He's back with us, Matt Mark, Good afternoon, How are you very very good?

Mark Video is a world renowned animal behavior a dog trainer and educator who has been working with animals for over forty years. He's a trained animal psychologist and created the Dogs In online training program. He's about to launch Katz and Katzen rather and he joins us once a month on Ask the Experting. He's back with us, Matt Mark, Good afternoon, How are you very very good?

Let's jump straight into it.

Let's jump straight into it.

Yes, let's do it.

Yes, let's do it.

Welcome to the show.

Welcome to the show.

Hello, Hi Jess, Hey, our question.

Hello, Hi Jess, Hey, our question.

So, I've got a covertal who's a year and a half old, who's a six and a half klo guy, and we have just acquired a bagel who's two years old, a very relaxed beagle, and the covertial hates them and keeps like cruising around trying to fite beagles.

So, I've got a covertal who's a year and a half old, who's a six and a half klo guy, and we have just acquired a bagel who's two years old, a very relaxed beagle, and the covertial hates them and keeps like cruising around trying to fite beagles.

Years.

Years.

I thought it would be how old how old is the beagle? And and he is the.

I thought it would be how old how old is the beagle? And and he is the.

Both male and h The bagel is two years old and he is fourteen. So he's the bigger of the truth.

Both male and h The bagel is two years old and he is fourteen. So he's the bigger of the truth.

Right, And are either them entire or the desex.

Right, And are either them entire or the desex.

The beagle is desex the little caboodle event as.

The beagle is desex the little caboodle event as.

Yet right right, okay, yeah, and you're saying the kaboodle is having a crack at the at the beagle. He is being.

Yet right right, okay, yeah, and you're saying the kaboodle is having a crack at the at the beagle. He is being.

Aggressive of the beagle and a lot of humping.

Aggressive of the beagle and a lot of humping.

Ye, so yeah, I mean, the good news is it's a relative civilians if you're happy to do it, and that's d sex in the cavidle. One of the problems with an entire male with another dog generally, and particularly a D six male, he'll treat it more like a female as you can see he's doing. And so it doesn't mean that males don't mount females and vice versa. But when you've got an entire mail, almost definitely, it'll be the the androgens, you know, particularly testosterone that's stimulating the behavior. And the simple answer is to if you're happy to do that, is to get him d sext. So if you're new to him, you will find that his mounting behavior will fall away quite quickly, normally in about a month. And what you've got to be careful of is that the hump of the mounting behavior can be perceived as a dominance threat as well, you know, because that's what dominant dogs do also to subordinates at times, you know, so that can be read that way. And therefore the bigger dog, the beagle, may decide that he's going to sort the cavoodle out and you know, andy end up in a fight. That sounds good that he's laid back degal So that's going to good use. And that's partly because of de sext but because of twice his size, you'll, you know, there's the risk that you know, the beg will counter respond to theodle. So d sexing is a simple answer you can do, and some behavioral techniques that can help and so and we can talk more about that, but it's a little more complex to describe it. Basically, we use the effective meat and greet.

Ye, so yeah, I mean, the good news is it's a relative civilians if you're happy to do it, and that's d sex in the cavidle. One of the problems with an entire male with another dog generally, and particularly a D six male, he'll treat it more like a female as you can see he's doing. And so it doesn't mean that males don't mount females and vice versa. But when you've got an entire mail, almost definitely, it'll be the the androgens, you know, particularly testosterone that's stimulating the behavior. And the simple answer is to if you're happy to do that, is to get him d sext. So if you're new to him, you will find that his mounting behavior will fall away quite quickly, normally in about a month. And what you've got to be careful of is that the hump of the mounting behavior can be perceived as a dominance threat as well, you know, because that's what dominant dogs do also to subordinates at times, you know, so that can be read that way. And therefore the bigger dog, the beagle, may decide that he's going to sort the cavoodle out and you know, andy end up in a fight. That sounds good that he's laid back degal So that's going to good use. And that's partly because of de sext but because of twice his size, you'll, you know, there's the risk that you know, the beg will counter respond to theodle. So d sexing is a simple answer you can do, and some behavioral techniques that can help and so and we can talk more about that, but it's a little more complex to describe it. Basically, we use the effective meat and greet.

Technique every time they come together for a while.

Technique every time they come together for a while.

So that's something that you should be doing in the meantime. And the best way to do this is with a clicker.

So that's something that you should be doing in the meantime. And the best way to do this is with a clicker.

And yes, right, all right, all the best jeers, Thank you very much.

And yes, right, all right, all the best jeers, Thank you very much.

Julia. You've got a hunt away a five year old that hates motorbikes and planes.

Julia. You've got a hunt away a five year old that hates motorbikes and planes.

Well, yeah, she's my grand dog and I get to look after her quite a lot. She doesn't actually hate them, but she just she just barks as tons of ways. Do more at the sound of them. Definitely, if she sees the post ego past on the on a motorbike, she'll bark and as soon as the motorbikes turned off she'll stop, so she's not aggressive.

Well, yeah, she's my grand dog and I get to look after her quite a lot. She doesn't actually hate them, but she just she just barks as tons of ways. Do more at the sound of them. Definitely, if she sees the post ego past on the on a motorbike, she'll bark and as soon as the motorbikes turned off she'll stop, so she's not aggressive.

I guess that's quite common.

I guess that's quite common.

Yeah, it's quite common stuff for a hunderway.

Yeah, it's quite common stuff for a hunderway.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What's the best thing to do when it has happens when you're out walking? That's one question? Can you do anything about it long term and makes you grow out of it?

What's the best thing to do when it has happens when you're out walking? That's one question? Can you do anything about it long term and makes you grow out of it?

Yeah, she probably won't go out of it, so it's better the trainer out of it. And it is very trainable. So normally what I do is part of it that there's to two batson. One of I teach the hunter way to a quiet command, you know, so that and I use the clicker for that. So you set it up in a situation normally on a little short lead while I'm training, and then I get it to bark and then teach it to be quiet. As soon as it's quiet for three to five seconds, I click and reward and then I extend that out to learn is what quiet means. So that's the first technique that I use that I teach the hundway to be quiet, which is pretty important because hunter ways are barking dogs.

Yeah, she probably won't go out of it, so it's better the trainer out of it. And it is very trainable. So normally what I do is part of it that there's to two batson. One of I teach the hunter way to a quiet command, you know, so that and I use the clicker for that. So you set it up in a situation normally on a little short lead while I'm training, and then I get it to bark and then teach it to be quiet. As soon as it's quiet for three to five seconds, I click and reward and then I extend that out to learn is what quiet means. So that's the first technique that I use that I teach the hundway to be quiet, which is pretty important because hunter ways are barking dogs.

That's what they do for a job, you know.

That's what they do for a job, you know.

So when they see a motorbike, when they're hyper around by something moving fast, like a motorbike or a plane, think about what they bark at. They bark at sheep and cattle that are moving, and they try and make them move. So that's anything that moves stimulates their hurting behavior. And so how orients them to the stimulus motorbike noise, pain noise, they'll look at it and then they'll bark at it. So normally I teach them I get some audio tapes of those sounds, and then I am using a desensitization technique and a clicker. I work and teach them to accept those sounds without vocalizing, and I use my quiet command when I'm doing that. Once I've done that in a training context that takes probably a week or two, then I'll start to extend it out in real situations. And I normally get a mate with a motorbike and just do a bit of work around home, and then I slowly build that up and then I'll go to something like can Airport and do some plane work. But yeah, you can train it out of them. And that's underways are really smart. So get them on a clicker and you watch how quickie they learn.

So when they see a motorbike, when they're hyper around by something moving fast, like a motorbike or a plane, think about what they bark at. They bark at sheep and cattle that are moving, and they try and make them move. So that's anything that moves stimulates their hurting behavior. And so how orients them to the stimulus motorbike noise, pain noise, they'll look at it and then they'll bark at it. So normally I teach them I get some audio tapes of those sounds, and then I am using a desensitization technique and a clicker. I work and teach them to accept those sounds without vocalizing, and I use my quiet command when I'm doing that. Once I've done that in a training context that takes probably a week or two, then I'll start to extend it out in real situations. And I normally get a mate with a motorbike and just do a bit of work around home, and then I slowly build that up and then I'll go to something like can Airport and do some plane work. But yeah, you can train it out of them. And that's underways are really smart. So get them on a clicker and you watch how quickie they learn.

They love food, very vocal dogs.

They love food, very vocal dogs.

Underways all the best, Julia.

Underways all the best, Julia.

Tell you what.

Tell you what.

The weirdest thing that I've seen is ist. I'll go no called Benny who lives in topor great name, great dog. Yes, human eyes, but he only think he barks out as parasailors, you know, out the back of the boats. Yeah, it's so bizarre. He just sees them and they seem so far away that nothing else but he sees these parasailors and they just make them so angry.

The weirdest thing that I've seen is ist. I'll go no called Benny who lives in topor great name, great dog. Yes, human eyes, but he only think he barks out as parasailors, you know, out the back of the boats. Yeah, it's so bizarre. He just sees them and they seem so far away that nothing else but he sees these parasailors and they just make them so angry.

It's bizarre parasale acause the bloody unusual things.

It's bizarre parasale acause the bloody unusual things.

Right, thank you very much, and teach them to yeah, perfect, right.

Right, thank you very much, and teach them to yeah, perfect, right.

Mark.

Mark.

We've got a couple of text questions here. This one says my husband and I have recently bought a new puppy and we have had him for two weeks now. He is six months old from a breeder. Unfortunately, he barks at my husband whenever he enters the room, and we are not sure what to do about it.

We've got a couple of text questions here. This one says my husband and I have recently bought a new puppy and we have had him for two weeks now. He is six months old from a breeder. Unfortunately, he barks at my husband whenever he enters the room, and we are not sure what to do about it.

It's driving us mad.

It's driving us mad.

Yeah, okay, So first first thing to understand, you should get you puppy eight weeks. When when a breeder gives you a puppy at six months old, then it means it's had been kept to seference breeding potential, and then they kept it to six months in the breeding context, which isn't normally very good. It's normally you know, it's normally a ken old situation, or they're not getting enough exposure to people and other dogs. You always like to get the puppy at two months, that's always the best. So realizing that you've missed the formative period of socialization for him, which is two to four months, and so now he's six months, he's a teenager and he hasn't probably been socialized well enough. That's my anticipation based on lots of having seen many many dogs. So normally you're now going to teach them a meet and greet technique for people. And the first thing I'd do with the male owner is that I'd get him on to the clicker with the dog and get him working doing what it called joining up. It's a simple little technique with a clicker, the dog larrent to him quite quickly. You need to start the dog on the clicker so he gets responsive and understand what it does. And then within two or three days you should better transfer that to your husband with your partner, and in that context, he needs to take control of the resources, particularly feeding and the clicker training, and you'll see the dog very quickly start to reorient to him as well, and maybe even dominantly. But one way or another, you've now got the relationship built, and then you need to extend that socialization to other people. I would anticipate that that dog would be a bit anxious about meeting any males. If if he's anxious about one that he's already got to.

Yeah, okay, So first first thing to understand, you should get you puppy eight weeks. When when a breeder gives you a puppy at six months old, then it means it's had been kept to seference breeding potential, and then they kept it to six months in the breeding context, which isn't normally very good. It's normally you know, it's normally a ken old situation, or they're not getting enough exposure to people and other dogs. You always like to get the puppy at two months, that's always the best. So realizing that you've missed the formative period of socialization for him, which is two to four months, and so now he's six months, he's a teenager and he hasn't probably been socialized well enough. That's my anticipation based on lots of having seen many many dogs. So normally you're now going to teach them a meet and greet technique for people. And the first thing I'd do with the male owner is that I'd get him on to the clicker with the dog and get him working doing what it called joining up. It's a simple little technique with a clicker, the dog larrent to him quite quickly. You need to start the dog on the clicker so he gets responsive and understand what it does. And then within two or three days you should better transfer that to your husband with your partner, and in that context, he needs to take control of the resources, particularly feeding and the clicker training, and you'll see the dog very quickly start to reorient to him as well, and maybe even dominantly. But one way or another, you've now got the relationship built, and then you need to extend that socialization to other people. I would anticipate that that dog would be a bit anxious about meeting any males. If if he's anxious about one that he's already got to.

Know very good trying to get to know.

Know very good trying to get to know.

Yeah, great, right, if you've got a question for Mark, now is your opportunity. Oh, eight hundred and eighteen eighty, that's right, one hundred eighteen eighty.

Yeah, great, right, if you've got a question for Mark, now is your opportunity. Oh, eight hundred and eighteen eighty, that's right, one hundred eighteen eighty.

Doesn't need to be a dog, could be a rhino, could be a giraffe, donkey, donkey, absolutely, lama.

Doesn't need to be a dog, could be a rhino, could be a giraffe, donkey, donkey, absolutely, lama.

We love lama questions. We had a few lama questions, So get on the phone.

We love lama questions. We had a few lama questions, So get on the phone.

Frog, Yeah, whatever, how are.

Frog, Yeah, whatever, how are.

You with lizards?

You with lizards?

Doctor bos Pooky go Yeah, lizards are good.

Doctor bos Pooky go Yeah, lizards are good.

Okay, right, let's get into it. Oh eight one hundred eighty ten.

Okay, right, let's get into it. Oh eight one hundred eighty ten.

Eighty a giant shirpede and kraken, whatever you got.

Eighty a giant shirpede and kraken, whatever you got.

Afternoon, and we are joined by Mark Vitz he Willed renowned animal behavior. So he is taking your questions.

Afternoon, and we are joined by Mark Vitz he Willed renowned animal behavior. So he is taking your questions.

Hey, so this particular dog, Bennie's a kvoodle and so I just bought it up. And then the mum of Benny the Fantastic Rosies text in and she said, what can we do about Bennie barking at the parasailors?

Hey, so this particular dog, Bennie's a kvoodle and so I just bought it up. And then the mum of Benny the Fantastic Rosies text in and she said, what can we do about Bennie barking at the parasailors?

Oh? What can we do?

Oh? What can we do?

Exactly what I was talking about for the prior person, you know, So that and that was teaching a quiet command with a clicker.

Exactly what I was talking about for the prior person, you know, So that and that was teaching a quiet command with a clicker.

And then we work then. And so you do that at home.

And then we work then. And so you do that at home.

If you can get some visuals or sounds of the parasailor, that helps too while you're doing your training at home. And then you take it go to sight and start working him on a clip station with a clicker and you're teaching him to quiet and click and reward him as the parasailor starts getting up, and then while he's up and then right through the routine and then comes down and try and keep him quiet through the routine, just using the clicker.

If you can get some visuals or sounds of the parasailor, that helps too while you're doing your training at home. And then you take it go to sight and start working him on a clip station with a clicker and you're teaching him to quiet and click and reward him as the parasailor starts getting up, and then while he's up and then right through the routine and then comes down and try and keep him quiet through the routine, just using the clicker.

Has he got a strong food drug? Got what strong food drive?

Has he got a strong food drug? Got what strong food drive?

Food drive? He likes, he likes to eat, but he's no labrador.

Food drive? He likes, he likes to eat, but he's no labrador.

Yeah yeah, yeah, where you might need sausages then either way, high value food award in the context. But once you've done it at home and you've got the basics of the quiet command working, then it translates to the new situation.

Yeah yeah, yeah, where you might need sausages then either way, high value food award in the context. But once you've done it at home and you've got the basics of the quiet command working, then it translates to the new situation.

If you's going to do it systematically, oh.

If you's going to do it systematically, oh.

There you go, highly corrupt with me. It is just time for my own family's problems. Peter Wak on the show, You've got a problem with ultrasound alarms?

There you go, highly corrupt with me. It is just time for my own family's problems. Peter Wak on the show, You've got a problem with ultrasound alarms?

Yeah, Mark, Hi, Mark. My neighbor has a caboodle and it barks a lot. I don't think it's ever had any training, runs around the back section, just barks all the time. And I wanted to ask you whether these ultrasound control boxes are of any use.

Yeah, Mark, Hi, Mark. My neighbor has a caboodle and it barks a lot. I don't think it's ever had any training, runs around the back section, just barks all the time. And I wanted to ask you whether these ultrasound control boxes are of any use.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, I mean the people use them, you know, to try and divert you know, a dog from barking, you know, at them in that kind of context, and I'm not quite you know. I mean they work at about twenty to forty five thousand hertz, which is the high end of the dog range and above our range, you know, so they're.

Well, I mean the people use them, you know, to try and divert you know, a dog from barking, you know, at them in that kind of context, and I'm not quite you know. I mean they work at about twenty to forty five thousand hertz, which is the high end of the dog range and above our range, you know, so they're.

Working at a higher level. But the dog can hear it well.

Working at a higher level. But the dog can hear it well.

But you know, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to make it aversive, you know, just because it's in their higher range. You know, that's the range of the of the present the prey species that they aren't in the wild, so like mice and rats and so on, So they can hear it that range and that and so it can have a verse in effects, and that's what they're trying to do. And so I suspect what you're suggesting as you use it to try and divert the neighbor's dog from barking beside you. It's a possibility that it will help a little bit, but really the bottom line comes down to the owners doing the right thing to train the dog. It's better to solve the problem from the dogs owner's point of view.

But you know, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to make it aversive, you know, just because it's in their higher range. You know, that's the range of the of the present the prey species that they aren't in the wild, so like mice and rats and so on, So they can hear it that range and that and so it can have a verse in effects, and that's what they're trying to do. And so I suspect what you're suggesting as you use it to try and divert the neighbor's dog from barking beside you. It's a possibility that it will help a little bit, but really the bottom line comes down to the owners doing the right thing to train the dog. It's better to solve the problem from the dogs owner's point of view.

So I'd go and have a chat to.

So I'd go and have a chat to.

Them about it and and talk about the fact that you know, there are ways of treating barking, but you're probably not going to have much effect from that side. I would suspect with an ultras on a dog.

Them about it and and talk about the fact that you know, there are ways of treating barking, but you're probably not going to have much effect from that side. I would suspect with an ultras on a dog.

Alarm thank you for cool Peter. It looks like dogs are causing a lot more problems in the community than octopi because just a whole heap of dogs.

Alarm thank you for cool Peter. It looks like dogs are causing a lot more problems in the community than octopi because just a whole heap of dogs.

People want to talk about dogs.

People want to talk about dogs.

Nothing on squids, out of control squid.

Nothing on squids, out of control squid.

No, but we did.

No, but we did.

We did.

We did.

An octopus photographs, so did you. So that was a very good world first, it was good.

An octopus photographs, so did you. So that was a very good world first, it was good.

Yeah, we're Kelly Tarlton's two families coming in and having a photograph. It took me about two months to train one and then unfortunately, females when they have their eggs, die and it had the eggs three days before the shoot, which was pretty unfortunate. Luckilly I had two others watching and managed to bring one of them men and he did the job beautifully.

Yeah, we're Kelly Tarlton's two families coming in and having a photograph. It took me about two months to train one and then unfortunately, females when they have their eggs, die and it had the eggs three days before the shoot, which was pretty unfortunate. Luckilly I had two others watching and managed to bring one of them men and he did the job beautifully.

Good composition, beautiful, beautiful.

Good composition, beautiful, beautiful.

Yeah.

Yeah.

One thing that blows my mind about octopus, And I know we're off topic, octopi, octopuses, whatever, octopusy. The thing is they're so smart, but they don't live very long. That's right for a creature to be that intelligent. Well, they only live three years max, don't they.

One thing that blows my mind about octopus, And I know we're off topic, octopi, octopuses, whatever, octopusy. The thing is they're so smart, but they don't live very long. That's right for a creature to be that intelligent. Well, they only live three years max, don't they.

Yeah, well it depends on the species. But yeah, the problem is when the female has her eggs, she dies straight afterwards. So it's kind of a sad affair. And I didn't really know that while I was training them, unfortunately, which seems a bit silly as a zoologist. But yeah, it never caught me out that we succeeded in saving the day. It's very difficult though, to teach.

Yeah, well it depends on the species. But yeah, the problem is when the female has her eggs, she dies straight afterwards. So it's kind of a sad affair. And I didn't really know that while I was training them, unfortunately, which seems a bit silly as a zoologist. But yeah, it never caught me out that we succeeded in saving the day. It's very difficult though, to teach.

Her octopus to take a photographs.

Her octopus to take a photographs.

They ate ten cameras before we even go to the one that worked.

They ate ten cameras before we even go to the one that worked.

You know, we'll take your word for that, March.

You know, we'll take your word for that, March.

Not many people get into that situation, which it's not a common thing though.

Not many people get into that situation, which it's not a common thing though.

Did you I mean, we're getting off topic here, but how do you choose which particularly tendacle they're going to use to press the button with the Yeah.

Did you I mean, we're getting off topic here, but how do you choose which particularly tendacle they're going to use to press the button with the Yeah.

Well they get to choose, right, and because one each each tentacle's got a brain, because they've got nine brains, and so you're actually talking to particular brains. And it's interesting they do use the same foot and and they change certain colors depending on how you're going. You know, if you really pissed them off, they go red, you know, and and then you know, and then they'll normally send them squirt of water straight at you.

Well they get to choose, right, and because one each each tentacle's got a brain, because they've got nine brains, and so you're actually talking to particular brains. And it's interesting they do use the same foot and and they change certain colors depending on how you're going. You know, if you really pissed them off, they go red, you know, and and then you know, and then they'll normally send them squirt of water straight at you.

Quite and so they're fun to work with humans and then bite you that's going to say, it's like working with Tyler. If he gets angry, he goes redy gets really angry. He squirts me.

Quite and so they're fun to work with humans and then bite you that's going to say, it's like working with Tyler. If he gets angry, he goes redy gets really angry. He squirts me.

Quick quick question here about donkeys, says Hi, we've recently adopted a donkey. Lovely nature for most of the family. However, when it comes to our ten year old daughter, the donkey will chase her and head butt her at every chance. Only only does it to her, and now she is tear fight. Have said, donkey, why is this and what can we do?

Quick quick question here about donkeys, says Hi, we've recently adopted a donkey. Lovely nature for most of the family. However, when it comes to our ten year old daughter, the donkey will chase her and head butt her at every chance. Only only does it to her, and now she is tear fight. Have said, donkey, why is this and what can we do?

Yeah, so it will be to with you know, how how did the donkey grow up with that with that family? Uh?

Yeah, so it will be to with you know, how how did the donkey grow up with that with that family? Uh?

No, they said they've recently not.

No, they said they've recently not.

Yeah, yeah, that's right.

Yeah, yeah, that's right.

So you know, normally with donkeys, you know, they're quite an individual and you do need to be experienced with a donkey. They can they can kick out, and they can be quite aggressive. So don't underestimate a donkey, even though they look small, don't. They use donkeys to control bull herds, So they'll put a male donkey in with a bull herd and it won't know one much with the donkey, and the donkey sorts out any fighting. So yeah, they can shoot way above their weight range and they'll punch above their weight range, so be careful with the donkey. But but by the same token, they're a beautiful animal.

So you know, normally with donkeys, you know, they're quite an individual and you do need to be experienced with a donkey. They can they can kick out, and they can be quite aggressive. So don't underestimate a donkey, even though they look small, don't. They use donkeys to control bull herds, So they'll put a male donkey in with a bull herd and it won't know one much with the donkey, and the donkey sorts out any fighting. So yeah, they can shoot way above their weight range and they'll punch above their weight range, so be careful with the donkey. But but by the same token, they're a beautiful animal.

It's all about.

It's all about.

Food for donkeys if you want to, So I click a train a donkey, and I always the best thing for the little for you to do and then to pass on to your daughter, is to use a just a stick with the ball on them of it, and I teach the donkey to touch it with its nose. If you don't, it touches it. I clicked them food and water with sweet feet. So have a little box of sweet feed on my belt and I click, and don't let it into your sweet feed belt. They make them damn mess quickly. And then you click and reward them for touching the stick. And then you move that round and it follows you and touches it, and click and reward, and then once you get control of it that way, you can actually move the donkey round and right from that point on you'll be fine with a donkey. And then you transfer that to the dater, she'll be the fine. Well, I mean you also should also hold your train them, of course. They should be good on a holter, of course, so anyone should be able to walk them on a holter.

Food for donkeys if you want to, So I click a train a donkey, and I always the best thing for the little for you to do and then to pass on to your daughter, is to use a just a stick with the ball on them of it, and I teach the donkey to touch it with its nose. If you don't, it touches it. I clicked them food and water with sweet feet. So have a little box of sweet feed on my belt and I click, and don't let it into your sweet feed belt. They make them damn mess quickly. And then you click and reward them for touching the stick. And then you move that round and it follows you and touches it, and click and reward, and then once you get control of it that way, you can actually move the donkey round and right from that point on you'll be fine with a donkey. And then you transfer that to the dater, she'll be the fine. Well, I mean you also should also hold your train them, of course. They should be good on a holter, of course, so anyone should be able to walk them on a holter.

I was staying at a farm, just on a ranch just out of Los Angeles, and the borrows as they call them, the borrels. The borrows were everywhere, just packs of wild donkeys. It was crazy. You were driving down the road and there'll be twenty donkeys come running past the bottles, the bottles the food.

I was staying at a farm, just on a ranch just out of Los Angeles, and the borrows as they call them, the borrels. The borrows were everywhere, just packs of wild donkeys. It was crazy. You were driving down the road and there'll be twenty donkeys come running past the bottles, the bottles the food.

Yeah, under estimate the donkey.

Yeah, under estimate the donkey.

Yeah, very good. Mark, afternoon A vow you're on with Mark.

Yeah, very good. Mark, afternoon A vow you're on with Mark.

Thank you, Good afternoon, Mark. It's found nuals here. I have a beautiful black Labrador and of course he's food orientated. When I go to the dog park, other people have a bag on the side with their treats and they're training their dogs. My boy.

Thank you, Good afternoon, Mark. It's found nuals here. I have a beautiful black Labrador and of course he's food orientated. When I go to the dog park, other people have a bag on the side with their treats and they're training their dogs. My boy.

Liked, you know, she's right on the side.

Liked, you know, she's right on the side.

Sitting down wat he wants one as well, and he gets one.

Sitting down wat he wants one as well, and he gets one.

Yep.

Yep.

So the trick there is have your own bag of treats. All you need is probably kibble, because you all had anything. Probably if he's a lab And I mean, i'd take a clicker as well, and you just reinforce your recall work. And I'd run a little long line on him until I knew I could call him back from that situation. But when he comes back, click and reward him, and of course then you're just as important to him. In fact, we'll be more important to him than the other one and their treats. So just yeah, find treats with treats that should go, no problem, all.

So the trick there is have your own bag of treats. All you need is probably kibble, because you all had anything. Probably if he's a lab And I mean, i'd take a clicker as well, and you just reinforce your recall work. And I'd run a little long line on him until I knew I could call him back from that situation. But when he comes back, click and reward him, and of course then you're just as important to him. In fact, we'll be more important to him than the other one and their treats. So just yeah, find treats with treats that should go, no problem, all.

The bears foul and Mark. That is all the time we've got. Thank you very much again, and we will catch you again in a month's time. We've got so many texts and questions to get next time you're on with us.

The bears foul and Mark. That is all the time we've got. Thank you very much again, and we will catch you again in a month's time. We've got so many texts and questions to get next time you're on with us.

I plead that anyone needs to jump on the school, find out, go for it.

I plead that anyone needs to jump on the school, find out, go for it.

We'll be there, yep, love it.

We'll be there, yep, love it.

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