After 41 years of marriage and 45 years together, Judge Greg Mathis and Linda Mathis get candid about what it really takes to keep a relationship fresh. They talk about sex, romance, feeling pursued, fear of rejection, scheduling intimacy, and how their idea of love has changed through careers, kids, dogs, and decades of marriage.

They also answer listener questions about feeling more like roommates, getting your partner to put in more effort, and keeping the spark alive when life gets in the way. Then Judge and Linda put it all to the test by pretending they’re strangers meeting at a hotel bar for the first time.