Dr. Pamela Patnode - Beyond burnout 

Break 1

Defining burnout 

Impact of burnout on marriage

What is St. Benedict's solution?

Break 2

Daily schedule

Dr. Pamela Patnode joins Doug to discuss her book, Beyond Burnout: Learning Balance from the Rule of St. Benedict. They define burnout, discuss the impact of burnout on marriage and share practical solutions.

 

Listener questions and comments:
Simon - I struggle with procrastination and when I try to put it off it will make it worse instead of doing it quick. (24:00)
Deedee - Did St. Benedict believe in perfect order? (36:11)

 

Resources:

Beyond Burnout: Learning Balance from the Rule of St. Benedict

https://orderosv.com/product/beyond-burnout-learning-balance-from-the-rule-of-st-benedict?ga_ref_list_id=taxonomy_3_term_94ga_ref_list_name=Taxonomy%20Term:%20Books

Dr. Pamela Patnode joins Doug to discuss her book, Beyond Burnout: Learning Balance from the Rule of St. Benedict. They define burnout, discuss the impact of burnout on marriage and share practical solutions.
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Listener questions and comments:
<ul>
<li>Simon - I struggle with procrastination and when I try to put it off it will make it worse instead of doing it quick. (24:00)</li>
<li>Deedee - Did St. Benedict believe in perfect order? (36:11)</li>
</ul>
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Resources:
Beyond Burnout: Learning Balance from the Rule of St. Benedict
<a href="https://orderosv.com/product/beyond-burnout-learning-balance-from-the-rule-of-st-benedict?ga_ref_list_id=taxonomy_3_term_94ga_ref_list_name=Taxonomy%20Term:%20Books">https://orderosv.com/product/beyond-burnout-learning-balance-from-the-rule-of-st-benedict?ga_ref_list_id=taxonomy_3_term_94ga_ref_list_name=Taxonomy%20Term:%20Books</a>

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Marriage Unhindered is a sincere exploration of the joys and challenges within the realm of marriage. Hosted by the seasoned Doug Hinderer, this one-hour, caller-based show is scheduled to air Monday through Friday at 5PM CT, and will offer listeners an authentic journey into the complexities of marital relationships.

Marriage Unhindered

Overcoming Burnout

Email: Behavior disorder

Avoident son 

Tactics of the Devil 

Emotional infidielity 

Doug answers a listener’s email about ending a relationship with someone who may have a behavioral disorder, then continues a series on how the devil attacks marriages. He also discusses the Four Horsemen of relationship conflict and when to seek professional help.

Listener questions and comments:


Kim: My 20-year-old son is dealing with a situation similar to the man in the email. What should I do? (17:36)


Maria: My husband and I are separated because we do not get along. He frequently talks to other women, makes new friends, and seeks platonic relationships with them. (38:03)

Resources:

The International Centre for Excellence in Emotionally Focused Therapy
https://iceeft.com/
Four Common Tactics of the Devil
https://spiritualdirection.com/2025/11/16/four-common-tactics-of-the-devil
https://catholictherapists.com/
https://catholicpsychotherapy.org/

Doug answers a listener&rsquo;s email about ending a relationship with someone who may have a behavioral disorder, then continues a series on how the devil attacks marriages. He also discusses the Four Horsemen of relationship conflict and when to seek professional help.
Listener questions and comments:
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Kim: My 20-year-old son is dealing with a situation similar to the man in the email. What should I do? (17:36)
</li>
<li>
Maria: My husband and I are separated because we do not get along. He frequently talks to other women, makes new friends, and seeks platonic relationships with them. (38:03)
</li>
</ul>
Resources:
The International Centre for Excellence in Emotionally Focused Therapy <a href="https://iceeft.com/" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="0">https://iceeft.com/</a> Four Common Tactics of the Devil <a href="https://spiritualdirection.com/2025/11/16/four-common-tactics-of-the-devil" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="1">https://spiritualdirection.com/2025/11/16/four-common-tactics-of-the-devil</a> <a href="https://catholictherapists.com/" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="2">https://catholictherapists.com/</a> <a href="https://catholicpsychotherapy.org/" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="3">https://catholicpsychotherapy.org/</a>

How the Devil Destroys Marriages

4 tactics of the devil - Deception

Husband wants a divorce

Finding balance amid marital conflict

Doug begins a two-part series on the 4 tactics the devil uses to destroy marriages.

 

Listener questions and comments:
Mary - My husband is considering divorce after an affair, saying the other woman gives him “a feeling” he can’t explain. Our hearing is Friday, and I’ve asked him to pause and reconsider, but he’s unsure what to do. (20:48)
Sebastian - How can I apply this concept of the devil’s influence to my situation, where my wife and I seem divided in our views of marriage and family life after several years of marriage and raising five children? (34:39)
Nancy – My second husband and I have been married for 31 years; both having come from difficult marriages. A quote by Bonhoeffer about marriage deeply resonated with me, giving me a beautiful sense of its purpose: not just romantic love, but a commitment to responsibility, mutual support, and the greater good of the world. (44:57)

 

Resources:

Marriage Unhindered

https://www.marriageunhindered.com/

 

Four Common Tactics of the Devil

https://spiritualdirection.com/2025/11/16/four-common-tactics-of-the-devil

 

4 ways the devil deceives us
The devil deceives us with many false and empty promises.
The devil also deceives us by suggesting all sorts of complexities.
The devil also seeks to deceive us with “wordsmithing.”
The devil also deceives us through the manipulation of data.

Doug begins a two-part series on the 4 tactics the devil uses to destroy marriages.
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Listener questions and comments:
<ul>
<li>Mary - My husband is considering divorce after an affair, saying the other woman gives him &ldquo;a feeling&rdquo; he can&rsquo;t explain. Our hearing is Friday, and I&rsquo;ve asked him to pause and reconsider, but he&rsquo;s unsure what to do. (20:48)</li>
<li>Sebastian - How can I apply this concept of the devil&rsquo;s influence to my situation, where my wife and I seem divided in our views of marriage and family life after several years of marriage and raising five children? (34:39)</li>
<li>Nancy &ndash; My second husband and I have been married for 31 years; both having come from difficult marriages. A quote by Bonhoeffer about marriage deeply resonated with me, giving me a beautiful sense of its purpose: not just romantic love, but a commitment to responsibility, mutual support, and the greater good of the world. (44:57)</li>
</ul>
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Resources:
Marriage Unhindered
<a href="https://www.marriageunhindered.com/">https://www.marriageunhindered.com/</a>
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Four Common Tactics of the Devil
<a href="https://spiritualdirection.com/2025/11/16/four-common-tactics-of-the-devil">https://spiritualdirection.com/2025/11/16/four-common-tactics-of-the-devil</a>
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4 ways the devil deceives us
<ol>
<li>The devil deceives us with many false and empty promises.</li>
<li>The devil also deceives us by suggesting all sorts of complexities.</li>
<li>The devil also seeks to deceive us with &ldquo;wordsmithing.&rdquo;</li>
<li>The devil also deceives us through the manipulation of data.</li>
</ol>

Four Common Tactics of the Devil (Part 1)

Her story of infertility

Adoption

Impact of infertility on marriage

Joy in the midst of suffering

Conversations with God

Mary Bruno joins Doug to discuss her book, Twelve Stripes Deep: How Infertility & Other Suffering Delivered My Greatest Joys.

 

Resources:

Mary Bruno

https://marygbruno.com/

 

NaPro Technology

https://naprotechnology.com/

 

FAbM Base

https://fabmbase.org

 

Twelve Stripes Deep: How Infertility & Other Suffering Delivered My Greatest Joys

https://bit.ly/47vFyPP

Mary Bruno joins Doug to discuss her book, Twelve Stripes Deep: How Infertility &amp; Other Suffering Delivered My Greatest Joys.
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Resources:
Mary Bruno
<a href="https://marygbruno.com/">https://marygbruno.com/</a>
&nbsp;
NaPro Technology
<a href="https://naprotechnology.com/">https://naprotechnology.com/</a>
&nbsp;
FAbM Base
<a href="https://fabmbase.org">https://fabmbase.org</a>
&nbsp;
Twelve Stripes Deep: How Infertility &amp; Other Suffering Delivered My Greatest Joys
<a href="https://bit.ly/47vFyPP">https://bit.ly/47vFyPP</a>

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