Norm Wielsch was a law enforcement officer for over 25 years and then landed in federal prison with a 14-year sentence. Jeremy sits down with Norm to talk about his life experience, how God found him at his lowest point, and what he's doing now to help others. 

Norm obtained a Master’s Degree in Theology & Counseling, a Doctorate in Christian Counseling, and a California Drug and Alcohol Counseling Certificate while in prison. 

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Norm Wielsch was a law enforcement officer for over 25 years and then landed in federal prison with a 14-year sentence. Jeremy sits down with Norm to talk about his life experience, how God found him at his lowest point, and what he's doing now to help others. 
Norm obtained a Master’s Degree in Theology &amp; Counseling, a Doctorate in Christian Counseling, and a California Drug and Alcohol Counseling Certificate while in prison. 
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Host Jeremy Stalnecker seeks to help listeners answer one of the toughest questions we all face, "How do I move forward when my world is falling apart?" Jeremy Stalnecker is the Executive Director of the Mighty Oaks Foundation, dedicated to helping America’s military warriors and their families who are suffering from the unseen wounds of combat such as Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD). Jeremy has served in the Marine Corps, and as Senior Pastor at Bay Area Baptist Church. He is an accomplished author, inspirational speaker and a frequent guest on some of the most prominent news networks.

Host Jeremy Stalnecker seeks to help listeners answer one of the toughest questions we all face, "How do I move forward when my world is falling apart?" Jeremy Stalnecker is the Executive Director of the Mighty Oaks Foundation, dedicated to helping...

March or Die

Host Jeremy Stalnecker seeks to help listeners answer one of the toughest questions we all face, "How do I move forward when my world is falling apart?" Jeremy Stalnecker is the Executive Director of the Mighty Oaks Foundation, dedicated to helping America’s military warriors and their families who are suffering from the unseen wounds of combat such as Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD). Jeremy has served in the Marine Corps, and as Senior Pastor at Bay Area Baptist Church. He is an accomplished author, inspirational speaker and a frequent guest on some of the most prominent news networks.

He Went From Law Enforcement to Federal Prison

Intro

The Impact of September 11th

Welcome to March or Die Show

Talking to Kids About War

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The Current Global Situation

Personal Experiences with War

Parental Responsibility in Times of Conflict

Alleviating Fear in Children

Discussing the Reasons for War

Standing Against Wickedness

Navigating Violence and Media

Leading by Example and Prayer

Closing Thoughts and Call to Action

When war dominates the headlines, parents are left asking an important question: How do we talk to our kids about it? In this episode of March or Die, Jeremy Stalnecker shares practical and biblical principles for guiding young people through confusing and frightening global events.

Drawing from his experience as a Marine who lived through the wars following 9/11, Jeremy explains why moments of global conflict can become powerful opportunities for parents to teach their children about courage, faith, and moral clarity. Rather than avoiding difficult conversations, parents can use them to help their kids understand fear, the reality of evil in the world, and the responsibility we have to stand for what is right.

This conversation explores how parents can alleviate fear, explain why conflict exists, and demonstrate a faith-filled response when the world seems chaotic. Jeremy also discusses the importance of teaching children the difference between necessary and unnecessary violence, why standing against evil matters, and how faith in God provides stability even in uncertain times.

Ultimately, the goal is not just to help kids understand today’s headlines, but to prepare them for the battles they will face in their own lives. If you are raising the next generation in a confusing world, this episode will help you equip them with truth, courage, and faith.

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When war dominates the headlines, parents are left asking an important question: How do we talk to our kids about it? In this episode of March or Die, Jeremy Stalnecker shares practical and biblical principles for guiding young people through confusing and frightening global events.
Drawing from his experience as a Marine who lived through the wars following 9/11, Jeremy explains why moments of global conflict can become powerful opportunities for parents to teach their children about courage, faith, and moral clarity. Rather than avoiding difficult conversations, parents can use them to help their kids understand fear, the reality of evil in the world, and the responsibility we have to stand for what is right.
This conversation explores how parents can alleviate fear, explain why conflict exists, and demonstrate a faith-filled response when the world seems chaotic. Jeremy also discusses the importance of teaching children the difference between necessary and unnecessary violence, why standing against evil matters, and how faith in God provides stability even in uncertain times.
Ultimately, the goal is not just to help kids understand today&rsquo;s headlines, but to prepare them for the battles they will face in their own lives. If you are raising the next generation in a confusing world, this episode will help you equip them with truth, courage, and faith.
Hit Subscribe, share this episode with your community, and drop a comment on what landed hardest for you.
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5 Things Parents Need to Tell Their Kids About War Right Now

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Meet Marcus McLain: From Army Sergeant to

Military Service and the Journey to Germany

The Wake-Up Call in Afghanistan

Transition Challenges and Identity Crisis

The Mighty Oaks Experience

The Power of Rest and Grace

Rucking as a Spiritual Practice

GoRuck's European Expansion

The Power of Walking and Community Building

The Importance of Community in Personal

GoRuck's Mission and Local Impact

Wrapping Up and Future Plans

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What happens when the war goes on without you?

Retired Army Master Sergeant Marcus McClain shares his journey from rural Indiana to multiple combat deployments, being wounded in Afghanistan, and facing the unexpected identity crisis that followed leaving the military. For nearly twenty years, he was “Sergeant Mac.” His purpose was clear. His mission mattered. His tempo was relentless. But when he found himself in a hospital bed in Germany realizing the war was continuing without him, something shifted.

In this conversation, Marcus opens up about the dangerous trap of tying your identity to a title, rank, or profession. He shares the struggle of transitioning out of the Army at 38 years old and discovering he didn’t know who he was outside of the uniform. Success and drive masked deeper issues. Anger, restlessness, and burnout began to surface. Eventually, he had to confront a hard truth: maybe the problem wasn’t everyone else. Maybe it was him.

We talk about faith, humility, and the two words that have reshaped his life: grace and rest. For a high performer who has always led from the front, learning to slow down and let God lead has been one of the hardest battles yet. Marcus also explains how rucking became more than fitness it became a tool for mental clarity, spiritual focus, and intentional space to hear from God without distraction.

Whether you’re a veteran navigating transition, a leader in the corporate world, or someone who feels lost when the mission changes, this episode will challenge you to separate who you are from what you do. Your job may be important, but it is not your identity.

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What happens when the war goes on without you?
Retired Army Master Sergeant Marcus McClain shares his journey from rural Indiana to multiple combat deployments, being wounded in Afghanistan, and facing the unexpected identity crisis that followed leaving the military. For nearly twenty years, he was &ldquo;Sergeant Mac.&rdquo; His purpose was clear. His mission mattered. His tempo was relentless. But when he found himself in a hospital bed in Germany realizing the war was continuing without him, something shifted.
In this conversation, Marcus opens up about the dangerous trap of tying your identity to a title, rank, or profession. He shares the struggle of transitioning out of the Army at 38 years old and discovering he didn&rsquo;t know who he was outside of the uniform. Success and drive masked deeper issues. Anger, restlessness, and burnout began to surface. Eventually, he had to confront a hard truth: maybe the problem wasn&rsquo;t everyone else. Maybe it was him.
We talk about faith, humility, and the two words that have reshaped his life: grace and rest. For a high performer who has always led from the front, learning to slow down and let God lead has been one of the hardest battles yet. Marcus also explains how rucking became more than fitness it became a tool for mental clarity, spiritual focus, and intentional space to hear from God without distraction.
Whether you&rsquo;re a veteran navigating transition, a leader in the corporate world, or someone who feels lost when the mission changes, this episode will challenge you to separate who you are from what you do. Your job may be important, but it is not your identity.
Learn more about GORUCK: <a href="https://www.goruck.com">https://www.goruck.com</a>&nbsp;
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What To Do When Your Title Is Your Identity

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Welcome to March or Die

The Importance of Marching Forward

Introducing Lieutenant Colonel David Grossman

From Oil Rig to Army Ranger: Colonel

The Taboo of Combat and the Birth of

The Power of Preparation and Realistic

Fasting, Prayer, and Spiritual Preparation

The Global Epidemic of Sleep Deprivation

The Sheep Dog Spirit: Protecting the Flock

The Power of Being a Sheep Dog

Living as a Christian Sheep Dog

Prayer as the Ultimate Weapon

Resources and Book Recommendations

Closing Prayer and Final Thoughts

What does it really mean to be a sheepdog in a world that feels increasingly unstable?

In this powerful episode of March or Die, Jeremy Stalnecker sits down with Lt. Col. Dave Grossman, author of On Killing, On Combat, and co-author of On Spiritual Combat, to discuss the psychology of combat, the spiritual battle facing our nation, and the responsibility of men and women to stand as protectors in their homes and communities.

From his experience as an Army Ranger and West Point psychology professor to his pioneering work in “killology,” Grossman unpacks:

- Why preparation,  realistic preparation, determines survival
- The difference between PTSD and post-traumatic growth
- The hidden epidemic of sleep deprivation and its connection to suicide
- Why fasting builds spiritual and mental resilience
- What it truly means to be a “sheepdog”
- Why prayer is the ultimate weapon in spiritual warfare

This conversation bridges combat psychology, spiritual discipline, and practical leadership for men who refuse to drift and choose instead to march.

If you’ve ever worn the uniform, or carry the responsibility of leading a family, this episode is for you.

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What does it really mean to be a sheepdog in a world that feels increasingly unstable?
In this powerful episode of March or Die, Jeremy Stalnecker sits down with Lt. Col. Dave Grossman, author of On Killing, On Combat, and co-author of On Spiritual Combat, to discuss the psychology of combat, the spiritual battle facing our nation, and the responsibility of men and women to stand as protectors in their homes and communities.
From his experience as an Army Ranger and West Point psychology professor to his pioneering work in &ldquo;killology,&rdquo; Grossman unpacks:
- Why preparation, &nbsp;realistic preparation, determines survival - The difference between PTSD and post-traumatic growth - The hidden epidemic of sleep deprivation and its connection to suicide - Why fasting builds spiritual and mental resilience - What it truly means to be a &ldquo;sheepdog&rdquo; - Why prayer is the ultimate weapon in spiritual warfare
This conversation bridges combat psychology, spiritual discipline, and practical leadership for men who refuse to drift and choose instead to march.
If you&rsquo;ve ever worn the uniform, or carry the responsibility of leading a family, this episode is for you.
Hit Subscribe, share this episode with your community, and drop a comment on what landed hardest for you.
Want more reinforcement? Subscribe to our newsletter, The Forward Edge, to go beyond the podcast and dig deeper into these topics and more:&nbsp;<a href="https://marchordie.substack.com">https://marchordie.substack.com</a>!
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The Biblical Blueprint for Strength Under Pressure with Lt. Col. Dave Grossman

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