JLo has been accused of being rude when she didn't say "Hi" to the Glambot Guy on the red carpet at the Golden Globes last week. We all love stories of snooty celebrities but is this just an extension of telling women to "Smile"?

Our (literal) foreign policy expert Amelia Lester is back and we have questions for her about Greenland. Namely, where is it? Why does Trump want it? And what happens if he gets it? 

Also, one of the most listened to men in the world is being accused of 'red-pilling' his audience. But what is that, and has it happened to Steven Bartlett of Diary of a CEO? 

Plus, on your Instagram it's 2016. So why are we so attracted to recent nostalgia, and what are the tell-tale signs that a pic was taken the year the whole world lurched towards the flaming bin?

All that and other excellent stuff too on today's Mamamia Out Loud with Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens and Amelia Lester. 

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JLo has been accused of being rude when she didn't say "Hi" to the Glambot Guy on the red carpet at the Golden Globes last week. We all love stories of snooty celebrities but is this just an extension of telling women to "Smile"? Our (literal) foreign policy expert Amelia Lester is back and we have questions for her about Greenland. Namely, where is it? Why does Trump want it? And what happens if he gets it?&nbsp; Also, one of the most listened to men in the world is being accused of 'red-pilling' his audience. But what is that, and has it happened to Steven Bartlett of Diary of a CEO?&nbsp;
Plus, on your Instagram it's 2016. So why are we so attracted to recent nostalgia, and what are the tell-tale signs that a pic was taken the year the whole world lurched towards the flaming bin?
All that and other excellent stuff too on today's Mamamia Out Loud with Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens and Amelia Lester.&nbsp;
What To Listen To Next:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/dax-shepard-egg-freezing/">We&rsquo;ve Entered The Year Of Friction-maxxing</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/best-heated-rivalry-theory/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Our Best Heated Rivalry Theory &amp; Taylor Swift's Mum</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/jennifer-lawrence-dog-drama/">A Spectacular Writers' Festival Collapse &amp; The Jennifer Lawrence Dog Drama</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/why-mia-freedman-left-mamamia-out-loud/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Why Mia Really Left... And Why She's Back</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/our-notes-on-the-golden-globes-hollywoods-toxic-mums-group/">Our Notes On The Golden Globes &amp; Hollywood's 'Toxic Mums' Group</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/rizz-slang-meaning">One Of Us Has No Charisma &amp; The New Dating Vocabulary</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/fingering-female-pleasure">The Fingering Renaissance</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&amp;ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA">Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts&nbsp;</a></li>
</ul>
Discover more <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/">Mamamia Podcasts here </a>including the very latest episode of <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/parenting-out-loud/">Parenting Out Loud</a>, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
We&rsquo;re giving away a Your Reformer Pilates bed (worth $3,400)&nbsp;<a href="http://mamamia.com.au/your-reformer-giveaway/?utm_source=mamamia&amp;utm_medium=article&amp;utm_campaign=subscription&amp;utm_content=reformer-giveaway" data-stringify-link="http://mamamia.com.au/your-reformer-giveaway/?utm_source=mamamia&amp;utm_medium=article&amp;utm_campaign=subscription&amp;utm_content=reformer-giveaway" data-sk="tooltip_parent">Subscribe to enter</a> MOVE by Mamamia is the app that helps you fit movement into your every day. Whether you have 10 minutes, or 45, we've got the workout that fits your time, space and body. Get $20 off an annual subscription until the end of January when you use code OUTLOUD at checkout. Start your free trial today. SUBSCRIBE here:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol"> Support independent women's media</a>&nbsp;
Watch Mamamia Out Loud:
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What to read:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/2016-trend-my-story/">'Everyone is nostalgic for 2016. But I can't romanticise a place I barely escaped.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/feminism-in-2025/">'This podcast framed itself as a debate on feminism. It was the opposite.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/venezuela-crisis/">Over 80 babies dead and food fast running out: The Venezuela crisis explained.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/golden-globes-2026-red-carpet/">Every single look from the 2026 Golden Globes red carpet.</a></li>
</ul>
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Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It’s conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It&rsquo;s conversation at its most addictive.

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An (Allegedly) Rude Celebrity & The Podcaster Facing a Reckoning

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