Got a shobby? You know — a short-term hobby for even shorter attention spans that fills the void between doomscrolls. Claire Murphy's hitting the high notes at Pub Choir, Holly’s deep in her Duolingo era, and Em V’s gone old school with a shobby that's like her full-time job now.

We’re also diving headfirst into Other People’s Marriages. After the Victoria Beckham doco dropped, an internet debate exploded about whether David even likes Victoria — so naturally, we’ve got thoughts. Expect a little parasocial self-reflection along the way.

And, one host + one pet = one unexpected argument.

Plus, in reccos: a podcast to binge, something lovely for your face, and a Substack that Em swears will cheer Murphy up.

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Recommendations

Em recommends an open letter to my dog who, if i'm being completely honest, lowkey kinda sucksa Substack by Father_Karine.

Claire recommends this week's episode of True Crime Conversations on The Real Story Of Ed Gein: The Original Psycho and next week's episode all about Kathleen Folbigg.

Holly recommends the L'Oreal Paris True Match Radiant Serum Concealer and The Jennifer Anniston episode of Armchair Expert.

Plus, check out Clare Connelly's masterclass in romance writing here.

 What To Listen To Next: 
Listen to our latest episode: The Precise Etiquette Of A 'Grudget'
Listen: Kim K's Bush & An Office Politics Dilemma
Listen: A 'Furious' King & The Rise Of The Barbie Waist
Listen: The Friends Vs Family Trap & We're All Rapunzel Now
Listen: What Did You Do Yesterday?
Listen: "A Comedian Hurt My Feelings"
Listen: Every Thought We Had About The Victoria Beckham Documentary
Listen: The Victoria Beckham Documentary Is Hard To Watch
Listen: The New High Status Boyfriend
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What to read: 
HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: ‘I desperately needed to find some calm… So I read one very particular book and I got a hobby.’
'Millennial hobby energy' is the reason we'll never be happy.
Victoria Beckham’s new Netflix documentary is here and it contains one jaw dropping moment.
'Oh Victoria, your husband is not on your team.'
Victoria Beckham and Nicole Kidman have two of Hollywood's strongest marriages. They just traded their secrets. 👀
Dua Lipa just confirmed her engagement. But it's the ring's backstory that'll melt you.

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. 

Got a&nbsp;shobby? You know &mdash; a short-term hobby for even shorter attention spans that fills the void between doomscrolls. Claire Murphy's hitting the high notes at Pub Choir,&nbsp;Holly&rsquo;s deep in her Duolingo era, and Em V&rsquo;s gone old school with a shobby that's like her full-time job now. We&rsquo;re also diving headfirst into Other People&rsquo;s Marriages. After the&nbsp;Victoria&nbsp;Beckham doco dropped, an internet debate exploded about whether David even likes Victoria &mdash; so naturally, we&rsquo;ve got thoughts. Expect a little parasocial self-reflection along the way. And, one host + one pet = one unexpected argument. Plus, in reccos: a podcast to binge, something lovely for your face, and a Substack that Em swears will cheer Murphy up.
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Recommendations
Em recommends <a href="https://fatherkarine.substack.com/p/an-open-letter-to-my-dog-who-if-im">an open letter to my dog who, if i'm being completely honest, lowkey kinda sucks </a>a Substack by Father_Karine.
Claire recommends this week's episode of True Crime Conversations on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/true-crime-conversations/ed-gein-monsters-podcast">The Real Story Of Ed Gein: The Original Psycho</a> and next week's episode all about&nbsp;Kathleen Folbigg.
Holly recommends&nbsp;the <a href="https://fave.co/4o4cs0y">L'Oreal Paris True Match Radiant Serum Concealer</a> and <a href="https://fave.co/3J9AEiU">The Jennifer Anniston</a> episode of Armchair Expert.
Plus, check out Clare Connelly's masterclass in romance writing <a href="https://clareconnelly.co.uk/">here</a>.
&nbsp;What To Listen To Next:&nbsp;
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<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/taylor-swift-grudges/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">The Precise Etiquette Of A 'Grudget'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/kim-kardashian-bush/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Kim K's Bush &amp; An Office Politics Dilemma</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/kim-kardashian-fashion-mask">A 'Furious' King &amp; The Rise Of The Barbie Waist</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/friends-family-arguments">The Friends Vs Family Trap &amp; We're All Rapunzel Now</a></li>
<li data-stringify-indent="0" data-stringify-border="0">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/what-did-you-do-yesterday/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol" data-stringify-link="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/what-did-you-do-yesterday/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol" data-sk="tooltip_parent">What Did You Do Yesterday?</a></li>
<li data-stringify-indent="0" data-stringify-border="0">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/selena-gomez-wedding-vape" data-stringify-link="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/selena-gomez-wedding-vape" data-sk="tooltip_parent">"A Comedian Hurt My Feelings"</a></li>
<li data-stringify-indent="0" data-stringify-border="0">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/victoria-beckham-doco/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol" data-stringify-link="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/victoria-beckham-doco/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol" data-sk="tooltip_parent">Every Thought We Had About The Victoria Beckham Documentary</a></li>
<li data-stringify-indent="0" data-stringify-border="0">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/victoria-beckham-documentary/" data-stringify-link="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/victoria-beckham-documentary/" data-sk="tooltip_parent">The Victoria Beckham Documentary Is Hard To Watch</a></li>
<li data-stringify-indent="0" data-stringify-border="0">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/jennifer-aniston-new-boyfriend" data-stringify-link="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/jennifer-aniston-new-boyfriend" data-sk="tooltip_parent">The New High Status Boyfriend</a></li>
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Discover more <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/">Mamamia Podcasts here </a>including the very latest episode of <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/parenting-out-loud/">Parenting Out Loud</a>, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
Watch Mamamia Out Loud:
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What to read:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/growing-a-veggie-patch/">HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: &lsquo;I desperately needed to find some calm&hellip; So I read one very particular book and I got a hobby.&rsquo;</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/millennial-hobby-energy/">'Millennial hobby energy' is the reason we'll never be happy.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/netflix-victoria-beckham-documentary-review/">Victoria Beckham&rsquo;s new Netflix documentary is here and it contains one jaw dropping moment.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/victoria-beckham-red-flags/">'Oh Victoria, your husband is not on your team.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/nicole-kidman-victoria-beckham-interview/">Victoria Beckham and Nicole Kidman have two of Hollywood's strongest marriages. They just traded their secrets.</a> 👀</li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/dua-lipa-relationships/">Dua Lipa just confirmed her engagement. But it's the ring's backstory that'll melt you.</a></li>
</ul>
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens &amp; Holly Wainwright
Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock
Audio Producer: Leah Porges
Video Producer: Josh Green
Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

A weekly podcast that's smart, often silly and sometimes surprising.

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Other People’s Marriages & Your New 'Shobby'

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