Em Vernem is celebrating a big birthday and we’re unpacking why turning 30 can feel like you’re living in five different decades at once.

Plus, Victoria Beckham says her family isn't a brand while simultaneously launching, well, a new family brand. Is this the definition of 'posting through it'?

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And, public pimple patches. Is wearing a glittery chin star to brunch the ultimate 'skin-positivity' win?

Finally, we’re entering a time when robots are shortlisting your dating options. So, what awkward conversations are AI bots having on first dates, and do they have a better chance of finding your true love than you do?

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Recommendations

Em recommendsThe Sheep Detectives, Hugh Jackman's highest grossing film. 

Amelia recommends Chosen Family by Madeleine Gray. 

Holly recommends Prime Minister on Apple TV; chronicling Jacinda Ardern's journey as Prime Minister of New Zealand. 

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Listen: Scurrilous Gossip: A Facelift Slippage & ‘Wildly Unhappy’ Royals
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What to read: 
'The dating formula that helped me ditch the apps for good.'
Someone needs to gently tell Harper Beckham this is a bad idea.
'I went to Mecca to try Victoria Beckham's beauty products. Here's what I would (and wouldn't) buy.'
The Sheep Detectives is Hugh Jackman's highest-rated movie ever. It's the best thing I've seen all year.
'I recommend books for a living. These are the 8 you need to read.'

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Acting Group Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock

Assistant Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Video Producer: Josh Green

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast. 

Em Vernem is celebrating a big birthday and we&rsquo;re unpacking why turning 30 can feel like you&rsquo;re living in five different decades at once.
Plus, Victoria Beckham says her family isn't a brand while simultaneously launching, well, a new family brand. Is this the definition of 'posting through it'?
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And, public pimple patches. Is wearing a glittery chin star to brunch the ultimate 'skin-positivity' win?
Finally, we&rsquo;re entering a time when robots are shortlisting your dating options. So, what awkward conversations are AI bots having on first dates, and do they have a better chance of finding your true love than you do?
SUBSCRIBE here: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Support independent women's media</a>&nbsp;
Recommendations
Em recommends <a href="https://www.hoyts.com.au/movies/the-sheep-detectives">The Sheep Detectives</a>, Hugh Jackman's highest grossing film.&nbsp;
Amelia recommends <a href="https://fave.co/4u7XDx3">Chosen Family </a>by Madeleine Gray.&nbsp;
Holly recommends <a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/movie/prime-minister/umc.cmc.5lo451wb29npbjjfp6qzxu5jb">Prime Minister</a> on Apple TV; chronicling Jacinda Ardern's journey as Prime Minister of New Zealand.&nbsp;
What To Listen To Next:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/four-styles-friendship-mel-robbins/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Wait, There Are Four Styles of Friendship?</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/ryan-reynolds-blake-lively/">A Fashion F-Up &amp; The Ryan Reynolds Of It All</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/white-lotus-fergie/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Scurrilous Gossip: The Royal Affair No One Saw Coming</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/harry-styles-dancing/">How To Be Liked By Absolutely Everyone</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/no-to-anna-wintour/">Writing a List of Anti-Goals Made Me Quit My Job</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/scurrilous-gossip-kris-jenner-facelift-slipping/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Scurrilous Gossip: A Facelift Slippage &amp; &lsquo;Wildly Unhappy&rsquo; Royals</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/met-gala-blake-lively/">The Red Carpet Moment That Answers The Blake Lively Question</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-met-gala-heidi-klum/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol"> Fake Nips &amp; Wandering Hands: Mia&rsquo;s Met Gala Verdict</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/cancelled/cancelled-jessie-twins-birth-story/"></a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&amp;ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA">Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts&nbsp;</a></li>
</ul>
Discover more <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/">Mamamia Podcasts here </a>including the very latest episode of <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/parenting-out-loud/">Parenting Out Loud</a>, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
SUBSCRIBE here:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol"> Support independent women's media</a>&nbsp;
You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/mamamia-out-loud/id928350893">Mamamia Out Loud on Apple</a>
What to read:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/dating-apps-hack/">'The dating formula that helped me ditch the apps for good.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/hiku-by-harper-beckham/">Someone needs to gently tell Harper Beckham this is a bad idea.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/victoria-beckham-beauty-review-mecca/">'I went to Mecca to try Victoria Beckham's beauty products. Here's what I would (and wouldn't) buy.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/the-sheep-detectives-review/">The Sheep Detectives is Hugh Jackman's highest-rated movie ever. It's the best thing I've seen all year.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/book-recommendations-2025/">'I recommend books for a living. These are the 8 you need to read.'</a></li>
</ul>
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Emily Vernem &amp; Amelia Lester
Acting Group Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock
Assistant Producer: Tessa Kotowicz
Video Producer: Josh Green
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.&nbsp;

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It’s conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It&rsquo;s conversation at its most addictive.

A weekly podcast that's smart, often silly and sometimes surprising.

Mamamia Out Loud

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