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It's sales season, and come on, you know you should be click-frenzying the Black Friday out of Cyber Monday.... It's exhausting, but also - is Christmas shopping dead?&nbsp;
Plus, What is a 'Grief Vampire' and why are so many Australians flocking to see one at his packed-out theatre tour? Jessie, Holly and Amelia are talking, mediums, and exploitation.
And:&nbsp;She Was Ready to Have Her 15th Child. Then Came the Felony Charges.' - That's the title of an article in the <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/02/magazine/marybeth-lewis-13-children-felony-charges.html#:~:text=New%20York%20Times-,She%20Was%20Ready%20to%20Have%20Her%2015th%20Child.,custody%20battle%20like%20no%20other.&amp;text=MaryBeth%20Lewis%20was%20shopping%20for,surrogate%20had%20just%20been%20induced.">New York Times</a> that's started a conversation about how old is too old to become a parent? The mother in question is 65, and fighting to regain custody of her infant twins.&nbsp;
Plus: The royal tour we almost missed, Harry and Meghan's birthday party ghosting and is there such a thing as 'the Australia effect'?&nbsp;
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The 'Australia Effect' & Meghan and Harry's Curious Party Edit

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