Does it matter who a politician is married to? From Peter Dutton and Anthony Albanese to defacto US president Elon Musk, we discuss what your partner says about you. 

Plus, Season 3 of The White Lotus has given us a new iconic female friendship group. Why Laurie, Jaclyn and Kate’s glossy toxic dynamic is cringingly familiar. 

And, with the end of awards season in sight, what do we really mean when we say we’re “worried” about the size of the women on the Hollywood red carpet?

PS: You can't miss Holly's chat about her own Roman Empire... Timothée Chalamet. 

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Listen: The Belle Gibson Fallout & Armie's 'D*ckhead Defence'
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Listen: The Great Attention Thief
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Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

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Does it matter who a politician is married to? From Peter Dutton and Anthony Albanese to defacto US president Elon Musk, we discuss what your partner says about you.&nbsp;
Plus, Season 3 of The White Lotus has given us a new iconic female friendship group. Why Laurie, Jaclyn and Kate&rsquo;s glossy toxic dynamic is cringingly familiar.&nbsp;
And, with the end of awards season in sight, what do we really mean when we say we&rsquo;re &ldquo;worried&rdquo; about the size of the women on the Hollywood red carpet?
PS: You can't miss Holly's chat about her own Roman Empire... Timoth&eacute;e Chalamet.&nbsp;
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<li>Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-white-lotus-season-3-ep1-ep2/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">We're Desperate To Talk About 'The White Lotus' Season 3</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/murdoch-family-estrangment-drama">The Sibling Estrangement Story We Can't Stop Thinking About</a></li>
<li>Listening:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/generation-that-has-the-best-sex/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">The Fingering Renaissance</a></li>
<li>Listen:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/apple-cider-vinegar-belle-gibson/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">&nbsp;The 'Apple Cider Vinegar' Debrief We All Needed</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/apple-cider-vinegar-real-life-people">The Belle Gibson Fallout &amp; Armie's 'D*ckhead Defence'</a></li>
<li>Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/hot-mess-woman-bridget-jones">&nbsp;The Exact Age A "Hot Mess" Is No Longer Cute</a></li>
<li>Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-great-attention-thief/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">The Great Attention Thief</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/adelaide-mother-confronts-school-bully">The Bully, The Mum &amp; The Aftermath Of A Viral Video</a></li>
<li>Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/baby-girl-movie-nicole-kidman/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">A Very Honest Review Of Nicole Kidman's 'Baby Girl'</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-true-story-of-a-liar-belle-gibson-apple-cider">The True Story Of A Liar: Belle Gibson &amp; Apple Cider Vinegar</a></li>
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<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/elon-musk-grimes-relationship/">As Elon Musk&rsquo;s custody battles are dragged into the spotlight, one video speaks volumes.</a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/who-is-kevin-franke/"></a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/white-lotus-season-three-mean-girls/">The White Lotus just nailed the ugly friendship dynamic we all recognise.</a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/white-lotus-filming-locations/">From Koh Samui to Phuket: All of The White Lotus Season 3 filming locations.</a></li>
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Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens &amp; Amelia Lester
Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas
Audio Producer: Tegan Sadler
Video Producer: Josh Green&nbsp;
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

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Ugly Female Friendships & A New Red Carpet Theory

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