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Plus, you might have heard that Australian psychiatrists are quitting on mass. What’s going on with our mental health crisis. We explain. 

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The world is watching one of Australia&rsquo;s best-known scammer&rsquo;s story unfolding on the Netflix show Apple Cider Vinegar. So what&rsquo;s true and what&rsquo;s not about Belle Gibson and the rise of the wellness warriors?
Plus, you might have heard that Australian psychiatrists are quitting on mass. What&rsquo;s going on with our mental health crisis. We explain.&nbsp;
And&hellip; a very famous actress became a mother last month and the world is obsessed with HOW. We&rsquo;re unpacking Lily Collins and the fascination with celebrity surrogacy.&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol&amp;utm_content=black-friday&amp;code=OUTLOUDFRIDAY">Support independent women's media</a>
<a href="https://www.outloudlive.com.au/">Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular&nbsp;</a>
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<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/is-it-ok-to-work-all-the-time">Listen to our latest episode: "Mummy, I Can See Her Bum"</a></li>
<li>Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/nightbitch-movie-amy-adams/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">We're Desperate To Talk About 'Nightbitch'</a></li>
<li>Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/anna-paul-mikaela-testa-feud">Anna Paul &amp; The Anatomy Of A Very 2025 Feud</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/2025-grammy-awards/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">The Grammys In Superficial Detail</a></li>
<li>Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/kate-ritchie-video-response">Kate Ritchie Knows She&rsquo;s &ldquo;Not OK&rdquo;, Thanks</a></li>
<li>Listen to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/extraordinary-stories/belle-gibson-episode-1/">Extraordinary Stories Belle Gibson</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&amp;ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA">Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts&nbsp;</a></li>
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Sign up to the <a href="https://mamamiaoutloud.substack.com/">Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter </a>for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place.&nbsp;
What To Read:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/mamamia-out-loud-live-tickets/">Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025</a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/donald-trump-inauguration-2025/"></a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/who-is-jess-ainscough/">Jess Ainscough was Australia's first alternative medicine influencer. Her story ended tragically.</a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/how-we-work-in-2025/"></a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/netflix-apple-cider-vinegar-fact-vs-fiction/">What's true (and what's not) in Netflix's Apple Cider Vinegar.</a></li>
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman &amp; Jessie Stephens&nbsp;
Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas
Audio Producer: Leah Porges
Video Producer: Josh Green&nbsp;
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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The True Story Of A Liar: Belle Gibson & Apple Cider Vinegar

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