Meghan Markle, uh Sussex, has a new side hustle and it involves your wardrobe. Why you buying a pair of jeans can earn the California duchess $16.80.

Yes, on the show today, we unpack how royals are diversifying, either willingly or not, thanks to 2025’s influencer culture. For some of them, it might even include a foray into *checks notes* milk. 

Plus, are you a lucky girl? TikTok’s latest manifestation trend explores the art of delusion to ensure you get what you want, every time. Except when you're Jessie and you're lucky even when you don't want to be. Our self-confessed lucky girl explains all. 

And, the return-to-office debate has taken a surprising turn. Is the location of your desk now a political statement? We discuss.

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Meghan Markle, uh Sussex, has a new side hustle and it involves your wardrobe. Why you buying a pair of jeans can earn the California duchess $16.80.
Yes, on the show today, we unpack how royals are diversifying, either willingly or not, thanks to 2025&rsquo;s influencer culture. For some of them, it might even include a foray into *checks notes* milk.&nbsp;
Plus, are you a lucky girl? TikTok&rsquo;s latest manifestation trend explores the art of delusion to ensure you get what you want, every time. Except when you're Jessie and you're lucky even when you don't want to be. Our self-confessed lucky girl explains all.&nbsp;
And, the return-to-office debate has taken a surprising turn. Is the location of your desk now a political statement? We discuss.
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<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/adolescence-tv-show">"Too Rich" Celebrities &amp; The Adolescence Theory</a></li>
<li>Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/non-traditional-relationships-solo-parenting">Open Marriages &amp; The New Kind Of Divorce</a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-white-lotus-season-3-episode-5-recap/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol"> </a></li>
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<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/snow-white-movie">The 7 Controversies Of This Year's Biggest Movie</a></li>
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<li>Listen to How To Build A Universe: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/how-to-build-a-human/the-enchanted-forest">The Enchanted Forest&nbsp;</a></li>
<li>Listen to the Quicky: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/the-quicky/budget-2025">The 2025 Budget For Basic B*tches</a></li>
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<li>Read:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/2025-federal-budget-cost-of-living-women-relief/">How the budget is actually going to help the cost of living.</a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/working-from-home-debate-women/">Hey, didn't we already have the debate about working from home?</a></li>
<li>Read:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/lucky-girl-syndrome-explained/">Exactly how to trick yourself into being a 'lucky person'.</a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/ben-affleck-single">Ben Affleck is the ultimate single girl.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/2025-federal-budget-cost-of-living-women-relief/"></a>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/meghan-markle-tv-show-relatable-opinion">'For Meghan Markle's show to succeed, she needs to go full Gwyneth Paltrow.'</a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/meghan-markle-online-shop">HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: 'How you feel about Meghan's new 'shop' tells me one thing about you.'</a></li>
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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It’s conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It&rsquo;s conversation at its most addictive.

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The Metamorphosis Of Meghan Sussex Is Complete

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