Taylor Swift is hanging out with her wedding guest Tom Cruise at a football game and we want to know who's got more to gain from those optics. 

You've heard about the Hyrox athlete who, um, soiled herself mid comp but went on to win. There are lots of memes. But we’re asking a different question: would you do the same for the prize money of $21k?

Today's a big day for Mia, as you'll hear as she struggles to get through our conversation about kids. And why did the advice to 'act like a drunk person falling downstairs' change Jessie's parenting? 

Plus Karl Stefanovic’s podcast is M.I.A and he and his business partner are in court. Mia has some thoughts about why running a media business is harder than it looks.

Listen to Jessie’s interview on No Filter "I Went to a Really Dark Place": Jessie Stephens on the Six Months Nobody Saw
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Karl Stefanovic has given his first interview since his sacking. His wife became the story.
'I went to a really dark place.' Jessie Stephens on the six months nobody saw.
The poo isn't the real problem here.

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Taylor Swift is hanging out with her wedding guest Tom Cruise at a football game and we want to know who's got more to gain from those optics.&nbsp;
You've heard about the Hyrox athlete who, um, soiled herself mid comp but went on to win. There are lots of memes. But we&rsquo;re asking a different question: would you do the same for the prize money of $21k?
Today's a big day for Mia, as you'll hear as she struggles to get through our conversation about kids. And why did the advice to 'act like a drunk person falling downstairs' change Jessie's parenting?&nbsp; Plus Karl Stefanovic&rsquo;s podcast is M.I.A and he and his business partner are in court. Mia has some thoughts about why running a media business is harder than it looks. Listen to Jessie&rsquo;s interview on No Filter <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/i-went-to-a-really-dark-place-jessie-stephens-on/id995159486?i=1000786552268">"I Went to a Really Dark Place": Jessie Stephens on the Six Months Nobody Saw</a> Listen to our episode about Karl leaving the Today show <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/emergency-meeting-karl-tommy-the-sack/id928350893?i=1000774131014">https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/emergency-meeting-karl-tommy-the-sack/id928350893?i=1000774131014</a> Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We&rsquo;ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to<a href="http://veryperi.com.au/"> veryperi.com.au</a> today. You hot? Same.
What To Listen To Next:&nbsp;
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<li aria-level="1">Listen to Jessie Stephens on No Filter: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/jessie-stephens-on-life-with-twins/">"I Went to a Really Dark Place": Jessie Stephens on the Six Months Nobody Saw</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-the-emmy-s-love-story-we-can-t-stop-thinking-about?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol"> The Emmy&rsquo;s Love Story We Can&rsquo;t Stop Thinking About</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/sydney-sweeney-sports-ad/">Sydney Sweeney Knows Exactly What She's Doing &amp; The 'Paperclip' Theory</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/constance-hall-denim-bird/">Why We All Quit Therapy &amp; When The Internet Says &lsquo;Leave Him&rsquo;</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-when-keeshia-s-lip-filler-went-wrong/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">When Keeshia&rsquo;s Lip Filler Went Wrong</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-most-famous-sibling-estrangement-is-over-the-documentary-nobody-can-believe/">You Can't Say That About Your Kids &amp; The Infamous Woman We Just Don't Believe</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&amp;ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA">Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts&nbsp;</a></li>
</ul>
Got questions or things you'd like Mia to talk about? Email us at outloud@mamamia.com.au
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<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/mamamia-out-loud/id928350893">Mamamia Out Loud on Apple</a>
What to read:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/karl-stefanovic-podcast-court-battle/">Karl Stefanovic's podcast is less than a year old. The relationship behind it has already imploded.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/karl-stefanovic-podcast-today-show/">Karl Stefanovic has given his first interview since his sacking. His wife became the story.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/jessie-stephens-no-filter-podcast/">'I went to a really dark place.' Jessie Stephens on the six months nobody saw.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/joanna-wietrzyk-hyrox-poo/">The poo isn't the real problem here.</a></li>
</ul>
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Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It&rsquo;s conversation at its most addictive.

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