One of Australia’s most infamous serial killers, Ivan Milat, died early Sunday morning in his cell at Long Bay Jail. Then, over the weekend, ISIS leader Abū Bakr al-Baghdadi was killed during a US military operation. There has been a lot of celebration over the last few days about the death of these two men. But is there something a little gross about celebrating when someone dies?

Plus, we’re constantly being told to be mindful and zen. Stress and chaos are very out of fashion. But Taffy Brodesser-Akner argues in a recent column that stress is what helps her get things done, and maybe a ‘calm’ and ‘peaceful’ life is overrated. Does she have a point?

Also, if you’re in shock that it’s nearly Christmas again, there’s a reason for that. This has been the decade where time was turned on its head, and here’s what that means for the average person.

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Listen to Mamamia’s new Overshare Podcast here: https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/overshare/

Holly’s Recommended article:

https://www.realsimple.com/work-life/life-strategies/taffy-brodesser-akner-stress-tips

Mia’s Recommended article: 

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katherinemiller/the-2010s-have-broken-our-sense-of-time

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Producer: Lem Zakharia

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One of Australia&rsquo;s most infamous serial killers, Ivan Milat, died early Sunday morning in his cell at Long Bay Jail. Then, over the weekend, ISIS leader Abū Bakr al-Baghdadi was killed during a US military operation. There has been a lot of celebration over the last few days about the death of these two men. But is there something a little gross about celebrating when someone dies?
Plus, we&rsquo;re constantly being told to be mindful and zen. Stress and chaos are very out of fashion. But Taffy Brodesser-Akner argues in a recent column that stress is what helps her get things done, and maybe a &lsquo;calm&rsquo; and &lsquo;peaceful&rsquo; life is overrated. Does she have a point?
Also, if you&rsquo;re in shock that it&rsquo;s nearly Christmas again, there&rsquo;s a reason for that. This has been the decade where time was turned on its head, and here&rsquo;s what that means for the average person.
LINKS
Listen to Mamamia&rsquo;s new Overshare Podcast here: <a href="https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/overshare/">https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/overshare/</a>
Holly&rsquo;s Recommended article:
<a href="https://www.realsimple.com/work-life/life-strategies/taffy-brodesser-akner-stress-tips">https://www.realsimple.com/work-life/life-strategies/taffy-brodesser-akner-stress-tips</a>
Mia&rsquo;s Recommended article:&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katherinemiller/the-2010s-have-broken-our-sense-of-time">https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katherinemiller/the-2010s-have-broken-our-sense-of-time</a>
MMOL TOUR DATES
A Night With Mia Freedman tickets available now at <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/events/">https://www.mamamia.com.au/events/</a>&nbsp;
Subscribe to Mamamia Out Loud here:<a href="https://omny.fm/shows/mamamia-out-loud/playlists/podcast"> https://omny.fm/shows/mamamia-out-loud/playlists/podcast</a>&nbsp;
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Hosts: Mia Freedman<a href="https://www.instagram.com/wainwrightholly/?hl=en"> Holly Wainwright</a> and<a href="https://www.instagram.com/jessiestephens90/?hl=en"> Jessie Stephens</a>
Producer: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lamazakharia/?hl=en">Lem Zakharia</a>
COME TALK TO US
Join the<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/"> Out Louders Facebook group</a>
GET IN TOUCH
Call the PodPhone on 02 8999 9386.
Email the show at outloud@mamamia.com.au&nbsp;&nbsp;
Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/"> Mamamia</a>. Find more shows<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/"> here</a>.

Smart, often silly and sometimes surprising. Absolutely everything is up for discussion: from pop culture to politics, body image to motherhood, feminism to fashion. Join Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright and Jessie Stephens as they dissect the news and issues of the week.

Smart, often silly and sometimes surprising. Absolutely everything is up for discussion: from pop culture to politics, body image to motherhood, feminism to fashion. Join Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright and Jessie Stephens as they dissect the news and issues of the week.

A weekly podcast that's smart, often silly and sometimes surprising.

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