There are two types of people in this world. The pranksters who live for April Fools' chaos, and the rest of us who'd rather eat glass than endure another workplace whoopee cushion. Which camp are you claiming? Plus, Jessie has some feedback and a theory about April Fools' Day.

Also, the very public custody battles with some of the richest, highest-profile, most volatile men in the world. From copyright claims to children appearing in presidential offices, we unpack the high-stakes turmoil surrounding Kanye West and Elon Musk.

And kinks are having their moment in pop culture, with The White Lotus season 3 finale coming next week and a confession on Gwyneth Paltrow's latest Goop podcast we have many questions.

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Listen: Oh Dear. The Biggest Group Chat Whoopsies
Listen: The White Lotus Recap – The Kiss & An Astonishing Scene
Listen: The Belle Gibson Fallout & Armie's 'D*ckhead Defence'
Listen: The White Lotus — 5 Theories & A Dong Watch
Listen to Mamamia's erotic podcast: Butter
Listen to The Quicky: What Australian Women Are Going Without & Kanye's Latest Attack on Kim
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Read: Kim Kardashian tried to stop the most sickening thing Kanye West has done so far.
Read: Elon Musk just welcomed his (checks notes)... 14th child.
Read: As Elon Musk’s custody battles are dragged into the spotlight, one video speaks volumes.
Read: This White Lotus theory suggests our fave is going to meet a tragic death.
Read: The White Lotus just nailed the ugly friendship dynamic we all recognise.
Read: From Koh Samui to Phuket: All of The White Lotus Season 3 filming locations.

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Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green 

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

There are two types of people in this world. The pranksters who live for April Fools' chaos, and the rest of us who'd rather eat glass than endure another workplace whoopee cushion. Which camp are you claiming? Plus, Jessie has some feedback and a theory about April Fools' Day.
Also, the very public custody battles with some of the richest, highest-profile, most volatile men in the world. From copyright claims to children appearing in presidential offices, we unpack the high-stakes turmoil surrounding Kanye West and Elon Musk.
And kinks are having their moment in pop culture, with The White Lotus season 3 finale coming next week and a confession on Gwyneth Paltrow's latest&nbsp;Goop podcast we have many questions.
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<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/adolescence-tv-show-unpacked/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Finally Debriefing On 'Adolescence' In Forensic Detail</a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-white-lotus-season-3-ep1-ep2/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol"></a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/chappell-roan-call-her-daddy/">The Woman Who's Never Met A Happy Parent</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/millennials-had-it-best">Millennials Were The Last Generation To Have It All</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/group-chat-mistake-us-defence-security/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol"> Oh Dear. The Biggest Group Chat Whoopsies</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-white-lotus-season-3-episode-5-recap/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">The White Lotus Recap &ndash; The Kiss &amp; An Astonishing Scene</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/apple-cider-vinegar-real-life-people"> The Belle Gibson Fallout &amp; Armie's 'D*ckhead Defence'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-white-lotus-season-3-episode-3-and-4/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">The White Lotus &mdash; 5 Theories &amp; A Dong Watch</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen to Mamamia's erotic podcast: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/butter">Butter</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen to The Quicky: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/the-quicky/cossie-livs-budget-kanye">What Australian Women Are Going Without &amp; Kanye's Latest Attack on Kim</a></li>
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<li aria-level="1">Read:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/mamamia-out-loud-live-tickets/"> Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/kim-kardashian-kanye-west-custody-battle/">Kanye West just crossed a line for Kim Kardashian. It may cost him custody of his kids.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/kim-kardashian-kanye-west-north-west-diddy/">Kim Kardashian tried to stop the most sickening thing Kanye West has done so far.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Read:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/elon-musk-children/">Elon Musk just welcomed his (checks notes)... 14th child.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Read:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/elon-musk-grimes-relationship/"> As Elon Musk&rsquo;s custody battles are dragged into the spotlight, one video speaks volumes.</a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/the-white-lotus-season-3-theories">This White Lotus theory suggests our fave is going to meet a tragic death.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Read:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/white-lotus-season-three-mean-girls/"> The White Lotus just nailed the ugly friendship dynamic we all recognise.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Read:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/white-lotus-filming-locations/"> From Koh Samui to Phuket: All of The White Lotus Season 3 filming locations.</a></li>
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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

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April Theory & A Brand New Kink

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