We're living in the age of diagnosis. But are we about to enter a new era – one of de–diagnosis, where we can give some of our pathologies back? We discuss a new book that's changing the way we see what's wrong with us.

Plus, we have some recommendations including a rashie (yes, you read that right) and two fabulous new memoirs about an It Girl and a magazine mogul.

And, a Nicole test, a bingle and multiple viewings of a questionable film, plus Jessie's car disaster. It’s Best & Worst. 

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Jessie wants you to check out Avaly's black rashie.

Holly wants you to read Say Everything: A Memoir By Ione Skye.

Amelia wants you to read When The Going Was Good by Graydon Carter.

What To Read: 
Read: Men will do anything but go to therapy.
Read: The Age of Diagnosis by Suzanne O’Sullivan review – do no harm
Read: 'A nurse told me I had two years to live. Then I found out the truth.'
Read: Edwina Bartholomew has just spoken about her health journey, 3 months after sharing her diagnosis.

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Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright & Amelia Lester

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producers: Coco Lavigne & Tessa Kotowicz

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. 

We're living in the age of diagnosis. But are we about to enter a new era &ndash; one of de&ndash;diagnosis, where we can give some of our pathologies back? We discuss a new book that's changing the way we see what's wrong with us.
Plus, we have some recommendations including a rashie (yes, you read that right) and two fabulous new memoirs about an It Girl and a magazine mogul.
And, a Nicole test, a bingle and multiple viewings of a questionable film, plus Jessie's car disaster. It&rsquo;s Best &amp; Worst.&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol&amp;utm_content=black-friday&amp;code=OUTLOUDFRIDAY">Support independent women's media</a>
<a href="https://www.outloudlive.com.au/">Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular&nbsp;</a>
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<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/rules-of-friendship-catch-ups/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">The Three Rules For Friendship Catch-Ups</a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/hot-mess-woman-bridget-jones"></a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-ick-of-old-friends-the-most-hated-woman-on-the-internet/"> The "Ick" Of Old Friends &amp; The Most Hated Woman On The Internet</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-white-lotus-season-3-finale/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">"We're Not OK" - The White Lotus Season 3 FinaleSubscribe</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/robert-irwin-photoshoot/">The Robert Irwin Undies Theory, Tariffs &amp; 7 Point Dressing</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/conservative-womens-magazine-evie/">Sex Tips (For Married Women Only)</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&amp;ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA">Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts&nbsp;</a></li>
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Sign up to the<a href="https://mamamiaoutloud.substack.com/"> Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter</a> for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place.&nbsp;
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Jessie&nbsp;wants you to check out <a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;xs=1&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Favaly.au%2Fproducts%2Fblack-midi-rash-top%3Fsrsltid%3DAfmBOoqL5AvTUZktmQobtyvngLKS5kkY3P9k24eZTmtiHXrIbAn0FEdB">Avaly's black rashie</a>.
Holly wants you to read <a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;xs=1&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com.au%2FSay-Everything-heartfelt-memoir-Anythings-ebook%2Fdp%2FB0D7QZB9QQ">Say Everything: A Memoir By Ione Skye</a>.
Amelia wants you to read <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/When-Going-Was-Good-Adventures/dp/0593655907">When The Going Was Good&nbsp;by Graydon Carter.</a>
What To Read:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/ryan-mccormick-mouth-tape-anger-issues/">Men will do anything but go to therapy.</a></li>
<li>Read:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2025/mar/12/the-age-of-diagnosis-by-suzanne-osullivan-review-do-no-harm">The Age of Diagnosis by Suzanne O&rsquo;Sullivan review &ndash; do no harm</a></li>
<li>Read:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/cancer-misdiagnosis/">'A nurse told me I had two years to live. Then I found out the truth.'</a></li>
<li>Read:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/edwina-bartholomew-cancer-diagnosis/">Edwina Bartholomew has just spoken about her health journey, 3 months after sharing her diagnosis.</a></li>
</ul>
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright &amp; Amelia Lester
Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas
Audio Producer: Leah Porges
Video Producer: Josh Green
Junior Content Producers: Coco Lavigne &amp; Tessa Kotowicz
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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I’d Like To Give My Diagnosis Back

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