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814 hours. That's how much extra care two full time working parents of primary schoolers need to find every year to cover the gap between school hours, school holidays and the working week. We discuss Georgie Dent&rsquo;s speech that just about every parent shared last week. Should you pay a friend back for a cup of coffee? One writer argues nobody should ask a friend to pay them back for anything under $15. Also, Taylor Swift seems to have entered her &lsquo;wife&rsquo; era. She has some new songs out, she&rsquo;s proudly shouting about who her husband is but we somehow end this segment shouting about joint tax returns. And, Kylie Minogue took over the AFL Grand Final with a bunch of other iconic Australian musos. As incredible as Kylie was, it was also the moment that Holly realised she had a parenting fail.&nbsp;
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The $15 Rule & “That’s My Husband!”

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