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The Sydney Swans scandal has left fans devastated, but what does it mean for a club that built its identity around being progressive, inclusive and different from other sporting codes? Mia Freedman, Em Vernem and Amelia Lester unpack the fallout and why so many female fans feel betrayed by a team they thought was a safe place to belong.
Plus, Harry and Meghan are moving back to the UK... but why? Our royal correspondent Holly Wainwright dials in to tell us what&rsquo;s really behind their return, from family reconciliation to Meghan&rsquo;s career and Harry&rsquo;s relationship with his home country.
And Nicole Kidman reveals she&rsquo;s either at a small dinner party or a rave and honestly, we have questions.
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The Swans Aftermath Unpacked & WTF Harry And Meghan?

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