Mia asked whether two of her kids’ friends were dating. The answer? No, they’re “talking”. Em and Keeshia try to explain the difference between talking, hooking up and dating, and somehow make it worse.

Plus, Keeshia confesses she’s the friend who never checks in. With the internet now saying that’s a red flag; she's asking whether the weekly “how are you?” text is a kindness or really a chore?

Today, each of our three hosts brings a dilemma to the table. We’re woefully unqualified, but we give it a red hot go.

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Mia asked whether two of her kids&rsquo; friends were dating. The answer? No, they&rsquo;re &ldquo;talking&rdquo;. Em and Keeshia try to explain the difference between talking, hooking up and dating, and somehow make it worse.
Plus, Keeshia confesses she&rsquo;s the friend who never checks in. With the internet now saying that&rsquo;s a red flag; she's asking whether the weekly &ldquo;how are you?&rdquo; text is a kindness or really a chore?
Today, each of our three hosts brings a dilemma to the table. We&rsquo;re woefully unqualified, but we give it a red hot go. We&rsquo;re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We&rsquo;re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at<a href="http://apple.co/creatorsweloveau."> apple.co/creatorsweloveau.</a>
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<li>Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/thomas-markle-allegations-meghan-markle/">This Is Not A Frivolous Royal Story &amp; Why Your Life Is Chaos Right Now</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-questions-you-need-to-ask-your-friends/">The Case Against Being Nice</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/elon-musk-new-documentary?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Elon Musk &amp; The 4 Hour Documentary We Can&rsquo;t Watch</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/helen-haines-mp-attack/">What The Attack On Helen Haines Has Shown Us &amp; The Russell Brand Strategy</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/divorce-faqs/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">"Major Life Update. We're Getting Divorced. Any Questions?"</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/andy-lee-rebecca-harding-wedding/">Andy Lee &amp; Bec Harding&rsquo;s Royal Wedding &amp; &ldquo;Can I Crash On Your Couch?&rdquo;</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/perimeopause-special-episode/">Special Episode: Perimenopause, Out Loud</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/susan-dell-internet-pile-on?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol"></a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&amp;ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA">Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts</a></li>
</ul>
Got questions or things you'd like Mia to talk about? Email us at outloud@mamamia.com.au
Discover more <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/">Mamamia Podcasts here </a>including the very latest episode of <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/parenting-out-loud/">Parenting Out Loud</a>, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
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What to read:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/how-to-maintain-friendships/">'Why you need to treat your friendships like subscriptions.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/friendship-catch-up-trap/">'I'd never heard of a friendship "catch-up trap". Turns out, I'm in one.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/lending-money-to-friends-gone-wrong/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">'I lent my best friend money after her divorce. How she spent it blindsided me.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/best-friend-turned-boss/">'My best friend became my boss. I didn't expect it to feel like a break-up.'</a></li>
</ul>
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Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It’s conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It&rsquo;s conversation at its most addictive.

A weekly podcast that's smart, often silly and sometimes surprising.

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SUBS FREE TASTER: "Am I A Bad Friend?" Our Team's Personal Dilemmas

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