Mary Fowler pulled out of two Matildas games and flew home, reportedly to be with her injured partner Nathan Cleary. Good on her, or did she let the team down? Em, freshly back from Cambodia, brings Holly and Jessie the sport story everyone has an opinion on. And would the conversation be different if it were Cleary?

Plus, Kelly Clarkson walked into a Brooklyn curiosity shop, asked about a singing mechanical bird and walked out feeling like Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman. Holly and Em perform a dramatic reading of the feud that followed on X. Who’s in the right? And is a mechanical bird really worth all this?

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Mary Fowler pulled out of two Matildas games and flew home, reportedly to be with her injured partner Nathan Cleary. Good on her, or did she let the team down? Em, freshly back from Cambodia, brings Holly and Jessie the sport story everyone has an opinion on. And would the conversation be different if it were Cleary? Plus, Kelly Clarkson walked into a Brooklyn curiosity shop, asked about a singing mechanical bird and walked out feeling like Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman. Holly and Em perform a dramatic reading of the feud that followed on X. Who&rsquo;s in the right? And is a mechanical bird really worth all this?
We&rsquo;re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We&rsquo;re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at<a href="http://apple.co/creatorsweloveau."> apple.co/creatorsweloveau.</a>
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/mary-fowler-personal-circumstances/">Two words were all Mary Fowler owed us.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/matildas-mary-fowler/">From Cairns to the World Cup: How Mary Fowler became the youngest Matildas player.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/mary-fowler-boyfriend-nathan-cleary/">Who is Matildas player Mary Fowler's boyfriend? Everything you need to know about the NRL star.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/kelly-clarkson-store-drama/">Kelly Clarkson accused a Brooklyn store of lying. Now it wants to 'clear the air'.</a></li>
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