Can you change a child's birthday because it's a bit... inconvenient for you? Content creator Indy Clinton wants us to believe she's doing just that with her "Christmas baby" and Sagittarians everywhere have thoughts.

Plus, Sienna Miller is pregnant and in a negligee on the British Fashion Awards this week. At 43, Holly wants to know, is this the quintessential representation of the new era of agelessness? 

Also, Pilates is dead, strength training is on its way out and a mobility obsession is on its way in - but, Amelia asks, is scolding people with the "correct" exercise trends really the way to make women move?

And an essay about motherhood ambivalence has Jessie pufferfishing. So, if you're not sure if you want kids, should you do it? 

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If You're On The Fence About Having Kids, Don't Do It - By Zoya Patel. 

Dr Stacey Sims being interviewed by Holly on MID.

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Indy Clinton was determined to unmask her trolls. She's just been handed a 64-page report.
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Can you change a child's birthday because it's a bit... inconvenient for you? Content creator Indy Clinton wants us to believe she's doing just that with her "Christmas baby" and Sagittarians everywhere have thoughts.
Plus, Sienna Miller is pregnant and in a negligee on the British Fashion Awards this week. At 43, Holly wants to know, is this the quintessential representation of the new era of agelessness?&nbsp;
Also, Pilates is dead, strength training is on its way out and a mobility obsession is on its way in - but, Amelia asks, is scolding people with the "correct" exercise trends really the way to make women move?
And an essay about motherhood ambivalence has Jessie pufferfishing. So, if you're not sure if you want kids, should you do it?&nbsp;
REFERENCES, friends: <a href="https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life-and-relationships/if-you-re-on-the-fence-about-having-kids-don-t-do-it-20251201-p5njx5.html">If You're On The Fence About Having Kids, Don't Do It</a> - By Zoya Patel.&nbsp; <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mid/dr-stacy-sims-viral-breakfast/">Dr Stacey Sims being interviewed by Holly on MID.</a>
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/best-time-to-have-kids/">'Is there a "right time" to have kids? I asked 15 mums if they had regrets.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/is-regretting-having-kids-normal/">Julia asked mothers if they regretted having their children. She received 10,000 responses.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/perimenopause-strength-training/">Just 5 strength exercises every woman in perimenopause needs.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/how-to-create-workout-routine/">'I thought exercise wasn't for me. This one change proved me wrong.'</a></li>
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The Thing You Can’t Say About Having Kids

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