Ruby Franke, the family vlogger mum, is behind bars for child abuse -- but what about her husband Kevin? We dive into the forgotten family member in this disturbing story and ask whether this case should make us rethink how we share our children's lives online.

Plus, from Meghan Markle's vision board to the surge in The White Lotus hotel bookings, why is everyone suddenly feeling aspirational?

And, everyone’s lonely, but no-one wants to make plans. Why we’re in the Year of the Flake - unless you’re Mia Freedman who's top of the leaderboard for mastering the pre-flake. 

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Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green 

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Ruby Franke, the family vlogger mum, is behind bars for child abuse -- but what about her husband Kevin? We dive into the forgotten family member in this disturbing story and ask whether this case should make us rethink how we share our children's lives online.
Plus, from Meghan Markle's vision board to the surge in The White Lotus hotel bookings, why is everyone suddenly feeling aspirational?
And, everyone&rsquo;s lonely, but no-one wants to make plans. Why we&rsquo;re in the Year of the Flake - unless you&rsquo;re Mia Freedman who's top of the leaderboard for mastering the pre-flake.&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol&amp;utm_content=black-friday&amp;code=OUTLOUDFRIDAY">Support independent women's media</a>
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<li>Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/murdoch-family-estrangment-drama">The Sibling Estrangement Story We Can't Stop Thinking About</a></li>
<li>Listening: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/generation-that-has-the-best-sex/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">The Fingering Renaissance</a></li>
<li>Listen:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/apple-cider-vinegar-belle-gibson/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">&nbsp;The 'Apple Cider Vinegar' Debrief We All Needed</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/apple-cider-vinegar-real-life-people">The Belle Gibson Fallout &amp; Armie's 'D*ckhead Defence'</a></li>
<li>Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/hot-mess-woman-bridget-jones">&nbsp;The Exact Age A "Hot Mess" Is No Longer Cute</a></li>
<li>Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-great-attention-thief/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">The Great Attention Thief</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/adelaide-mother-confronts-school-bully">The Bully, The Mum &amp; The Aftermath Of A Viral Video</a></li>
<li>Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/baby-girl-movie-nicole-kidman/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">A Very Honest Review Of Nicole Kidman's 'Baby Girl'</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-true-story-of-a-liar-belle-gibson-apple-cider">The True Story Of A Liar: Belle Gibson &amp; Apple Cider Vinegar</a></li>
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<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/mamamia-out-loud-live-tickets/">Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025</a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/donald-trump-inauguration-2025/"></a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/the-white-lotus-theme-song">'An open letter to whoever changed The White Lotus theme song.'</a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/elon-musk-children"></a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/ruby-franke-children-now/">18 months after her arrest, this is where Ruby Franke's kids are now.</a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/who-is-kevin-franke/">Ruby Franke's husband claimed he never knew of her abuse. He's just spoken again.</a></li>
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Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas
Audio Producer: Leah Porges
Video Producer: Josh Green&nbsp;
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

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Finally, The Person Missing From The Ruby Franke Story

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