So the ‘royal tour that isn’t’ is in full swing and we have an insider call from Melbourne. Our friend Amy Clark was hanging out with Harry at a men's mental health event this morning, and tells us everything, including which Australian celebrities upstaged the Duke/Prince. But as Harry and Meghan’s itinerary unfurls, Holly Wainwright asks: Is it ballsy or cheeky to be pulling off exactly the kind of tour once reserved for active, working royals? 

Plus, as Susan Coyle becomes Australia’s first female Army Chief, the celebrations are almost being drowned out by the sexist trolling. The swampy internet discourse feels gutting for every woman who has ever worked her way to the top only to be met with a chorus of 'DEI hire'. Amelia Lester is unpacking: Should women just ignore the trolling these wins attract, or does that leave us living in a fake reality? 

And, 'hey, girl'. Clare Stephens has researched to PhD level the 'Alex vs. Alix' podcast feud. We’ve got Alex Cooper (the Call Her Daddy mogul) and Alix Earle (the Hot Mess creator) throwing passive-aggressive shade over TikTok about 'fake drama' and 'rock bottom' content. Is it a manufactured publicity stunt for an upcoming interview? Or is there genuine jealousy over a Super Bowl commercial and (gosh) Adam Sandler cameos?

Meanwhile, over in Scurrilous Gossip, JLo is reportedly hooking up with Ted Lasso’s Roy Kent (aka Brett Goldstein), and we are invested. Apparently, he's the 'best kisser' she’s ever worked with, which is quite the claim. But is it real? 

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So the &lsquo;royal tour that isn&rsquo;t&rsquo; is in full swing and we have an insider call from Melbourne. Our friend Amy Clark was hanging out with Harry at a men's mental health event this morning, and tells us everything, including which Australian celebrities upstaged the Duke/Prince. But as Harry and Meghan&rsquo;s itinerary unfurls, Holly Wainwright asks: Is it ballsy or cheeky to be pulling off exactly the kind of tour once reserved for active, working royals?&nbsp;
Plus, as Susan Coyle becomes Australia&rsquo;s first female Army Chief, the celebrations are almost being drowned out by the sexist trolling. The swampy internet discourse feels gutting for every woman who has ever worked her way to the top only to be met with a chorus of 'DEI hire'. Amelia Lester is unpacking: Should women just ignore the trolling these wins attract, or does that leave us living in a fake reality?&nbsp;
And, 'hey, girl'. Clare Stephens has researched to PhD level the 'Alex vs. Alix' podcast feud. We&rsquo;ve got Alex Cooper (the Call Her Daddy mogul) and Alix Earle (the Hot Mess creator) throwing passive-aggressive shade over TikTok about 'fake drama' and 'rock bottom' content. Is it a manufactured publicity stunt for an upcoming interview? Or is there genuine jealousy over a Super Bowl commercial and (gosh) Adam Sandler cameos?
Meanwhile, over in Scurrilous Gossip, JLo is reportedly hooking up with Ted Lasso&rsquo;s Roy Kent (aka Brett Goldstein), and we are invested. Apparently, he's the 'best kisser' she&rsquo;s ever worked with, which is quite the claim. But is it real?&nbsp;
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<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/coachella-bieber-pay-day/">Quick Question: Why Are You So Annoying?</a></li>
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/harry-meghan-australia-2026/">Last time Harry and Meghan were here, it changed everything. This time, they're hoping the same.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/alex-cooper-alix-earle-drama/">Alix and Alex are fighting again.</a></li>
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Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It&rsquo;s conversation at its most addictive.

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A Podcast Feud & Hanging Out With Prince Harry

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