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Outlouders, enjoy this free nibble of Mia Freedman. Listen to the full conversation — Love Story Part 2: Jackie O, The Kennedys & That Fight Scene— at 5 pm TODAY. What do you mean, you're not a subscriber yet? Solve that problem HERE. Mia & Amelia are (still) obsessed with Carolyn Bessette Kennedy (CBK) so they’re back for Part 2 of their deep dive into the TV series Love Story. From Naomi Watts’ depiction of real-life icon Jackie O to the complex roles of Darryl Hannah and the Kennedy matriarchs, they’re unpacking what it must have been like to marry into the complicated Kennedy family. Plus, Mia and Amelia examine the toxic dynamics that defined the couple’s public life and break down that infamous Central Park fight scene. Was it a moment of passion, or was it "emotional dysregulation"?  They also discuss the poignant newsletter from the couple’s close friend Carole Radziwill, who explains why she refuses to watch the show and the unsettling question of whether why the dead are never allowed to rest in peace in the age of AI.  It’s a raw and slightly uncomfortable look at how we consume the tragedies of the past as modern entertainment. Remember, this is your free sample of today's subs episode. The full debrief drops for subscribers at 5pm. What To Listen To Next:  Listen to Part 1: Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story  Listen: Uninvited Princesses & The Dating Story We're Yearning For Listen: The Next Top Model Reckoning & Jessie's Very Honest Handover Listen: Oh Sh*t. We Let Creeps Decide Our Beauty Standards Listen: "I'm A Working Mum & I Just Want To Quit" Listen: Prince William Has Entered The Chat Listen: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here:Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy became one of the most famous women in the world. She hated it. This new series tackles the complicated legacy of the '90s hottest couple. JFK cheated on his wife Jackie for years. She was 'paid to keep it quiet'. 'My first salary was $12k.' Working in magazines was like the real-life Devil Wears Prada. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

America and Israel have launched an attack on Iran, and while the world watches the fallout of "Epic Fury," we’re looking at what comes next.  Our Amelia Lester, also an editor at Foreign Policy, is here to explain why the US acted without Congress, why Australia is one of the few Western voices in support, and whether this is the kind of international meddling Donald Trump promised to avoid? Plus, Carolyn Bessette and JFK Jnr’s Love Story has triggered a wave of nostalgia for those who lived through the 90s, and 'fauxstalgia' for those who like to imagine a world that didn't involve an endless scroll. Clare Stephens wants to know what life was like when we lived with two hands, and not with one constantly on our phones. And, Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie have been snubbed, finding themselves uninvited from a major royal event. So are they being punished for the sins of their parents, or, Holly Wainwright wants to know, is this the beginning of William’s royal trim down? Also, we’ve got the definitive list of songs NOT to listen to when you’re driving.  And… Bad Bunny, Harry Styles and the ridiculous joy of watching men dance. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: The Next Top Model Reckoning & Jessie's Very Honest Handover Listen: Oh Sh*t. We Let Creeps Decide Our Beauty Standards Listen: "I'm A Working Mum & I Just Want To Quit" Listen: Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story Listen: Prince William Has Entered The Chat Listen: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section Listen: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  'One moment during the Super Bowl halftime show brought me to tears.' Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy became one of the most famous women in the world. She hated it. This new series tackles the complicated legacy of the '90s hottest couple. 'Everyone is nostalgic for 2016. But I can't romanticise a place I barely escaped.' HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: 'Prince' Andrew's arrest is not what you think it is. Listen to The Quicky:The US & Israel Have Struck Iran Killing The Supreme Leader. What Happens Next?  THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

It’s the season to blame Tyra. Netflix’s new America’s Next Top Model doco has us spiraling back to 2003. It shows us the size-zero era through a 2026 lens, when Tyra Banks was breaking barriers while also showcasing some of the show's seriously batshit behaviour —from models posing as murder victims to 'makeovers' that involved pulling teeth. Now we’re in the MAFS era Clare Stephens wants to know: is every generation’s reality TV show of choice just programmed to prompt outrage?  Also, today is Jessie’s last day before she goes off on maternity leave. But not before a chaotic handover to her twin, Clare. As Clare prepares to take the seat, she’s re-learning the 'rules' of being an Out Loud host.  In other business, does your personality need a mini-makeover of its own? We’re talking 'micro-reinvention' — not big deals like quitting your job; more small shifts like adopting a signature condiment or finally becoming a 'Pilates person'. Holly, for instance, is wearing brown. Big deal. Huge.  SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Recommendations Clare recommends the "Brick"—a physical device that locks you out of your apps to fight phone addiction. Jessie recommends L’Occitane Osmanthus Abricot shower gel or DedCool Taunt Hand and Body Wash for the ultimate vibe shift. Holly recommends Eric Dane: Famous Last Words on Netflix—a raw interview with a man who has nothing left to lose. What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: Oh Sh*t. We Let Creeps Decide Our Beauty Standards Listen: "I'm A Working Mum & I Just Want To Quit" Listen: Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story Listen: Prince William Has Entered The Chat Listen: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section Listen: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here:Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  'I was raised on America's Next Top Model. The new Netflix documentary is deeply disturbing.' Shandi was part of the biggest cheating scandal on ANTM. The truth was far worse than what we saw. Amanda Ware won Australia's Next Top Model after TV's most awkward mix-up. This is her life now. JESSIE STEPHENS: On being pregnant with twins. As a twin. With twin brothers. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Clare Stephens, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Outlouders, enjoy this free bite of Mia Freedman. Catch the full conversation — Oh Sh*t. We Let Creeps Decide Our Beauty Standards — at 5 pm TODAY. Not a subscriber yet? Put matters right HERE. When a newsletter has the internet in a chokehold, you better believe that Mia Freedman has to unpack it.  And so it is with the recent Substack from Jameela Jamil. Writing from what Jamil calls the "funeral of the body positivity movement," she posits a theory that is as provocative as it is dark: that the obsession with extreme thinness, hairlessness, and agelessness isn't just about vanity — it’s a standard designed to mimic the aesthetics of children. Jessie and Holly join Mia to dive deep into the sinister framework of the 'sexy baby' trope, questioning why grown women are taught to spend their lives trying to get back to a body they had at thirteen. Is the 'Epstein-ness' of this current cultural moment exposing a wider fetishisation of youth among the world's most powerful men? Or is Jamil's critique of the homogenised look of our favourite female stars—from Sabrina Carpenter to Taylor Swift—unfairly judging their "sparkly underpants" choice? "Your body is not meant to look the same at 28 as it did at 18." Is it time to reclaim our waistlines, our wrinkles, and our right to look like grown-ass women? Mia has thoughts — and we're pretty sure you do too. Remember, this is your free sample of today's subs episode. The full debrief drops for subscribers at 5pm. What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: "I'm A Working Mum & I Just Want To Quit" Listen: Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story Listen: Prince William Has Entered The Chat Listen: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section Listen: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here:Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  Jameela Jamil's Substack: Ah shit! We let pedophiles decide our beauty standards. Britney Spears, Brooke Shields and the 'criminal' interviews child stars don't want us to forget. Chappell Roan can take a stand, we apparently just need her to suffer a bit first. 'You’re routinely underestimated.' The 9 untold benefits of being an ugly child. Sarah says she has 'ugly privilege'. Okay, it's time we talk about the thing we're all too scared to talk about. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Today, if you’re an Australian with even a drop of British or Irish blood, Amelia has a warning that might cost you hundreds of dollars. And, is it okay for celebrities to ask us for money? After the deaths of millennial TV icons James Van Der Beek and Eric Dane, their families have started GoFundMe campaigns — and not everyone’s happy about it. Holly, Jessie, and Amelia have very different takes on whether it’s okay to solicit for donations when you live on a multi-million dollar ranch.  Also, the new Married At First Sight villain,Tyson has landed. Jessie thinks his quest for a 'submissive' woman and his 'manosphere' vibes reflect what women are dealing with out in the dating world. While Holly‘s pearls are clutched about the podcast he’s doubtless going to start when he leaves the show. So, ‘should’ this man be on primetime TV?  Plus, a listener dilemma we can’t stop talking about. Vanessa is overwhelmed, over-worked, and considering quitting her job because her husband’s 'big career' has left her doing 100 percent of the heavy-lifting at home. Jessie says "life is long, just quit," while Holly is asking: if every woman is making the 'choice' to scale back, is it actually a choice at all? Plus, we deep dive into PHAARC — the probably not real (but very relatable) 'medical' condition currently ruining your work life.  SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story Listen: Prince William Has Entered The Chat Listen: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section Listen: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question Listen: All The Gossip From The Wuthering Heights Premiere (And Why Mia Walked Out) Listen: Wuthering Heights & the ‘Bad Man’ Controversy Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here:Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  Grey's Anatomy and Euphoria actor Eric Dane has died, aged 53. Legendary actor James Van Der Beek has died, aged 48. 'I'd never thought twice about donating to a GoFundMe. Until my friends wanted to start one for me.' Mamamia recaps MAFS: The 'Mean Girls' face-off with the experts. It's not laziness, it's PHAARC. The new condition hitting the workforce. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Outlouders, enjoy this free bite of Mia Freedman and Amelia Lester. Catch the full conversation — Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story — at 5 pm TODAY. Not a subscriber yet? That can all change here. There are two kinds of people: those obsessed with Carolyn Bessette Kennedy (CBK) and those who just don’t get it. Mia Freeman and Amelia Lester are firmly in the first camp. From Calvin Klein salesgirl to the most scrutinised woman in New York, Carolyn became a 90s' style legend — without ever giving an interview. Her marriage to John F. Kennedy Jr. turned her into paparazzi prey, her minimal wardrobe into a fashion blueprint, and her silence into an industry of speculation. On today's subs episode, Mia and Amelia dive into Love Story: John F. Kennedy Jr. and Carolyn Bessette, the long-awaited dramatisation that had CBK obsessives in meltdown over wigs, hemlines and handbags. The show is a love story, but it’s also a slow-motion warning about paparazzi culture, pre-social media fame, and a woman who saw celebrity as a liability. Remember, this is your free sample of today's subs episode. The full debrief drops for subscribers at 5pm. What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: Prince William Has Entered The Chat Listen: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section Listen: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question Listen: All The Gossip From The Wuthering Heights Premiere (And Why Mia Walked Out) Listen: Wuthering Heights & the ‘Bad Man’ Controversy Listen: "Uh-Oh, I'm A Finger Princess" Listen: Jessie and Clare Stephens' Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here:Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  This new series tackles the complicated legacy of the '90s hottest couple. Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy became one of the most famous women in the world. She hated it. An aircraft that never landed: Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy, JFK Jr and the Kennedy Curse. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Prince William is carrying on, but he’s not calm about it. He and Princess Kate are at the BAFTAs today, but people are only yelling at them about his uncle Prince Andrew's arrest. Holly Wainwright’s question is: Might ‘complicit’ King Charles take the fall for his brother, and hand his sh*t skirt to William? Plus, "burnout feminism" is the name given to a 2020s shift that’s seeing women leaning out, quitting their jobs and embracing the pleasure of giving up. So, Jessie Stephens wants to know: After a very brief period of celebration, is female ambition just a bit cringe now?  And the viral clip of Channel 9 reporter Danika Mason a lil’ bit drunk on-air at the Winter Games is only a fragment of the story. Was a full apology necessary to save a career, or is being "proper Danika’d" just the most relatable thing to happen on TV this year? Oh, and in other business, bar soap is apparently dying and Amelia Lester is not happy about it. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section Listen: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question Listen: All The Gossip From The Wuthering Heights Premiere (And Why Mia Walked Out) Listen: Wuthering Heights & the ‘Bad Man’ Controversy Listen: "Uh-Oh, I'm A Finger Princess" Listen: Jessie and Clare Stephens' Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here:Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: 'Prince' Andrew's arrest is not what you think it is. Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor is the first British royal arrested in almost 400 years. Here's everything we know. 'I call the dads of my students if they're sick.' 23 women on their daily acts of micro-feminism. Bar soap is back, but not as you know it. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

It’s Friday, and it’s a news-free zone. Breathe out, friends, and let’s kick off with a splash of skincare nepotism — Gwyneth Paltrow’s daughter Apple is sharing how Mum asked all her “Goopy” friends to help fix her teenage acne and honestly, haven’t we all?  Also, iconic magazine editor Anna Wintour just sat down with her successor, Vogue Content Director Chloe Malle, and served up a deeply awkward masterclass in 'Boomer vs. Millennial' work ethic clash. So, who wants to pay everyone 30 per cent more?  Is it ever okay to mention your food intolerance on a first date? What about your ex? What about your mother? And who the hell does pay, in 2026? The New York Times has dropped a new set of 'Dating Rules'. Some are genius, some are unhinged, and yes, we have thoughts.  And finally, we tackle a domestic mystery as old as time: Are you a box-flattener or are you... normal? Plus, recommendations. Jessie Stephens has a very helpful robot for you. Clare Stephens wants to help you unlock creativity (it's a new year, fire horses) and Holly Wainwright wants to show you her new pants.  SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Recommendations Clare recommendsThe Writer's Studiowhich offerscourses for aspiring writers.  Holly recommends the jersey barrel leg pants from Uniqlo  In a turn of events, Jessie is recommending Chat GPT (we're shocked too) for anybody who needs some design help when moving house.  What To Listen To Next:  EMERGENCY MEETING: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question Listen: All The Gossip From The Wuthering Heights Premiere (And Why Mia Walked Out) Listen: Wuthering Heights & the ‘Bad Man’ Controversy Listen: "Uh-Oh, I'm A Finger Princess" Listen: Jessie and Clare Stephens' Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder Listen: An Affair Confession Live On Air Listen: The Best (And Worst) Generations Of Parents. A Leaderboard! Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here:Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor is the first British royal arrested in almost 400 years. Here's everything we know. HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: Only Andrew, just Sarah and a teenage 'nobody' who rewrote royal history. 'Margaret Qualley just shared her "dating rules," and I'm here to break every single one.' Anna Wintour is fashion's most powerful woman. She is famously secretive about her love life. Inside the extremely elite Le Bal des Débutantes, a Bridgerton ball for nepo babies. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Clare Stephens, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor has been arrested in the UK on his 66th birthday on suspicion of misconduct in public office. The former prince is the first senior British royal in modern history to be detained by police. How did it happen? Why did it happen? And what does King Charles have to say about it? On this extraordinary day for the Monarchy, we cross to Out Loud Royal Correspondent, Holly Wainwright for an Emergency Meeting. What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question Listen: All The Gossip From The Wuthering Heights Premiere (And Why Mia Walked Out) Listen: Wuthering Heights & the ‘Bad Man’ Controversy Listen: "Uh-Oh, I'm A Finger Princess" Listen: Jessie and Clare Stephens' Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder Listen: An Affair Confession Live On Air Listen: The Best (And Worst) Generations Of Parents. A Leaderboard! Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here:Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor is the first British royal arrested in almost 400 years. Here's everything we know. HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: Only Andrew, just Sarah and a teenage 'nobody' who rewrote royal history. 'Margaret Qualley just shared her "dating rules," and I'm here to break every single one.' Anna Wintour is fashion's most powerful woman. She is famously secretive about her love life. Inside the extremely elite Le Bal des Débutantes, a Bridgerton ball for nepo babies. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud  

If Barack Obama says there are aliens, then there are aliens. While the former President is busy clarifying that he didn't actually see any ETs in the Oval Office, Jessie Stephens has a theory: Is men’s obsession with outer space just a symptom of not having enough mental load? Plus, the political "pub test" is officially dead, and the "algorithm test" has moved in and made itself comfortable. We’re looking at why the Internet is both the world’s best fact-checker and its most dangerous bias-confirmer. And Holly Wainwright is asking, what IS the actual pub test in 2026?  And because we clearly haven't done enough critical thinking, we’re wading into the chaos of Married At First Sight. Jessie, of course, is an expert in the field, and she’s bringing several philosophical questions from the new season, starting with: Can you ever come back from a sexual chemistry deficit?  In other business, apparently, humans "fall off a cliff" at age 44, which is sending Amelia Lester into a spiral. Happily, there’s a pick-me-up coming: Hollywood A-listers are signalling that side-parts are back. What’s next? Skinny jeans and ballet flats? Oh. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: All The Gossip From The Wuthering Heights Premiere (And Why Mia Walked Out) Listen: Wuthering Heights & the ‘Bad Man’ Controversy Listen: "Uh-Oh, I'm A Finger Princess" Listen: Jessie and Clare Stephens' Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder Listen: An Affair Confession Live On Air Listen: The Best (And Worst) Generations Of Parents. A Leaderboard! Listen: The Most Bizarre Celebrity Profile We’ve Ever Read Listen: Do I Matter? & The Bathroom Taboo Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here:Support independent women's media  Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  Mamamia recaps MAFS: Two divas finally storm out. 'Everything I've ever wanted': MAFS' Brook Crompton is expecting a baby. Mamamia recaps MAFS: The commitment ceremony from hell. Millennials aren’t going to like this hairstyle making a comeback. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Did Australian politics just take a little topple off a glass cliff, or is the ‘rolling’ of Liberal leader Sussan Ley much more complicated than that? We’ve got the TLDR. And, Wuthering Heights is everywhere and so is criticism of just what kind of “greatest love story” it is. A very sexy one, or a downright irresponsible one?  Also, looksmaxxing. What is it? Who’s doing it? And why does it have to involve 17 different tablets every morning and a whole lot of money?  Oh, and a little round up of scurrilous gossip for you. What do Celeste Barber, Ada Nicodemou and the Beckham family all have in common? They’re all trying to navigate some big emotional moments via social media. And look, for the Beckhams, it’s not going well…  Listen to Amelia Lester, Holly Wainwright and Jessie Stephens get into all that and other stuff too, on today’s Mamamia Out Loud. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: "Uh-Oh, I'm A Finger Princess" Listen: Jessie and Clare Stephens' Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder Listen: An Affair Confession Live On Air Listen: The Best (And Worst) Generations Of Parents. A Leaderboard! Listen: The Most Bizarre Celebrity Profile We’ve Ever Read Listen: Do I Matter? & The Bathroom Taboo Listen: The Female Emaciation Era — Holly & Jessie Weigh In Listen: An Urgent Theory About Kim Kardashian & Lewis Hamilton Listen to The Quicky: “Outrageous & Provocative” Holly Wainwright’s Surprising Review of Wuthering Heights Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here:Support independent women's media  Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  A brutally honest review of Wuthering Heights, a movie that will force you to scream. Marty Supreme is a perfect film, except for one distracting detail. Emerald Fennell was talking to her male friends when she came up with Promising Young Woman. Australia's favourite comedy couple Celeste Barber and Api Robin have separated. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Outlouders, it’s Friday the 13th and the vibes are… chaotic. From Wuthering Heights to Finger Princesses to The Year of the Fire Horse and our weekly reccos, today's show is A LOT. We’re about to enter the Year of the Fire Horse and apparently it’s all action, freedom and breakthrough energy. Unless you’re a Pig (sorry, Holly Wainwright). Jessie Stephens and Clare Stephens are claiming this as their zodiac Super Bowl, but there’s a tiny historical footnote involving superstition, falling birth rates and the suggestion Fire Horses are “too wild.” Rude. And, the robots have taken over your child’s class photo. And no, we're not 'just' talking fixing gappy smiles. Add in AI-cheating uni students, 200-written-in-a-year AI romance novels by one author and its controversial use in true crime documentaries and suddenly we’re asking: are we outsourcing our brains? Or just evolving? Plus: the petty hills we will absolutely die on. Quiet carriages. TEABAG OUT. No, Coke Zero isn’t fine. Yes, you must wave. The list is long and, at times, unhinged. And finally… are you a Finger Princess? The friend who asks questions she could very easily Google. We fear it’s us. Welcome to Friday, friends. It's a vibe. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Recommendations Clare recommendsthe podcast Adrift. Jessie recommends The Correspondent by Virginia Evans and True Crime Conversation's, The 15-Minute Trial That Found Courtney Herron's Killer Not Guilty. Holly recommends Wuthering Heights, (the OG) by Emily Bronte.   What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: Jessie and Clare Stephens' Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder Listen: An Affair Confession Live On Air Listen: The Best (And Worst) Generations Of Parents. A Leaderboard! Listen: The Most Bizarre Celebrity Profile We’ve Ever Read Listen: Do I Matter? & The Bathroom Taboo Listen: The Female Emaciation Era — Holly & Jessie Weigh In Listen: An Urgent Theory About Kim Kardashian & Lewis Hamilton Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here:Support independent women's media  Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  Day 15 of the robots telling me what to eat. 'Gen Z knows more about AI than their bosses. It's about to change how we all work.' 'I walk straight into them': 17 women on the petty hill they will die on. We asked women to share their acts of micro-pettiness. Prepare to take notes. 2025 was dominated by the Let Them Theory. 2026 will be Let Them Be Petty. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Clare Stephens, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Tina Matolov Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

"Three months ago, I made my biggest mistake and cheated on her..." These were the words that a Norwegian biathlete shared in his live press interview, minutes after winning bronze at the Winter Olympics. So why did Sturla Holm Laegreid choose to tell the world he messed up his chance with "the love of his life" and will his grand gesture to get her back work?  Also, the world can't look away from the devastating true-crime story of the apparent abduction of US TV star Savannah Guthrie's mother Nancy. Today, there's been an announcement that a man has been detained after the release of a nightmarish video, but why has this case captured the world's attention and does that spotlight help, or harm, a real-time investigation?  Plus, Lindsay Vonn is a US ski-racer who should possibly never have started the race that just ended her career. So is her story a triumphant one about resilience, or a cautionary one about ego? And look, Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens and Amelia Lester were not going to leave the studio without a dose of scurrilous gossip: The footballer dumped immediately after they lost the Superbowl; why Kendall Jenner needed hand-holding in the Bad Bunny show; Kim and Lewis and, the couple most likely to infuriate their friends are (maybe) back together. Yes, it's JLO and Ben, 2.5. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: The Best (And Worst) Generations Of Parents. A Leaderboard! Listen: The Most Bizarre Celebrity Profile We’ve Ever Read Listen: Do I Matter? & The Bathroom Taboo Listen: The Female Emaciation Era — Holly & Jessie Weigh In Listen: An Urgent Theory About Kim Kardashian & Lewis Hamilton Listen: Scurrilous Gossip - Karl Stefanovic, Melania Trump & Sydney Sweeney, Oh My Listen: Fertility Vampires & The Murkiness Of 'Affair Baiting' Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here:Support independent women's media  Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  On Saturday, Nancy Guthrie's doorbell camera disconnected. By morning, she'd vanished. 'All I can think about is the Winter Olympics penis scandal.' 'One moment during the Super Bowl halftime show brought me to tears.' A slap, a 24-year age gap, and the controversy surrounding Emmanuel and Brigitte Macron. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

It’s Super Bowl Day in the US and while we’re not clear on the result, we do know that Kim Kardashian decided it was date night and Bad Bunny is actually one extremely good bunny. So, why did he inspire other musicians to put on a rival halftime show?  In other business, the 'Coldplay kiss cam' woman is telling her side of the story of the night that changed her life, and Jessie Stephens, Clare Stephens and Holly Wainwright ask: What do you do with the kind of infamy that no-one wants? And, Recipe Tin Eats’ Nagi Maehashi is mourning the loss of her very good boy, the famous Dozer. Have we learned how to say goodbye to pets properly? And what do we do with that very particular grief?  Plus, Melinda Gates and what you owe a truly terrible ex.  And Bianca Censori — Kanye West’s wife — has given a long and winding interview about why she’s ready to put clothes on. Why, though?  SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: Do I Matter? & The Bathroom Taboo Listen: The Female Emaciation Era — Holly & Jessie Weigh In Listen: An Urgent Theory About Kim Kardashian & Lewis Hamilton Listen: Scurrilous Gossip - Karl Stefanovic, Melania Trump & Sydney Sweeney, Oh My Listen: Fertility Vampires & The Murkiness Of 'Affair Baiting' Listen: It's Time To Burp Your House & The 3, 5, 7 Underwear Rule Listen: The New 'Wronged Wife' Divorce Playbook Listen: A Royal Summer Update Of Very Big Feelings Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here:Support independent women's media  Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  When Bill Gates married Melinda, there was a condition. He could go on a yearly holiday with his ex. The one thing about the Epstein files everyone is missing. A guide to the Epstein files for people who don't have all day. Millions of Australians loved Dozer. Now RecipeTin Eats' Nagi Maehashi has said goodbye. It would be different if she had a voice. The disturbing truth about why Bianca Censori left Kanye West. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Mia Freedman is in full-on producer mode at the moment with the launch of her shiny new project Unleashed. Today, however, she’s back in the hosting chair on Mamamia Out Loud as she spills to Jessie Stephens and Em Vernem what this producer gig malarkey is all about. Outlouders, trust us, you’re going to eat this up. And, do you matter? Are you essential or just... existing? Mia, Jessie, and Em unpack the 'mattering' movement and why it’s taking over from 'let them'. Plus, hotel bathrooms. Something’s changed, and it’s making us feel most exposed. The hosts dig into this trend and why some things — even with your partner — are better left private. Also, Valentine’s Day = loneliest day for singles? Em begs to differ. There’s actually a worse one, and she’s explaining why. Aaaand did we mention that hair tinsel is back? Naturally, Mia is fully here for it. Welcome to the world of disco hair. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Recommendations Em recommendsthe new season of Bridgerton and The Spill's Watch Party, Viral Moments, Marriage Rules & The Life Of A Maid Jessie recommends On The Edgeby Kate Horan  Mia recommends these sparkly hair clips from Amazon.  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: The Female Emaciation Era — Holly & Jessie Weigh In Listen: An Urgent Theory About Kim Kardashian & Lewis Hamilton Listen: Scurrilous Gossip - Karl Stefanovic, Melania Trump & Sydney Sweeney, Oh My Listen: Fertility Vampires & The Murkiness Of 'Affair Baiting' Listen: It's Time To Burp Your House & The 3, 5, 7 Underwear Rule Listen: The New 'Wronged Wife' Divorce Playbook Listen: A Royal Summer Update Of Very Big Feelings Listen: The Productivity Hack Jessie Swears By & Rogue Habits We Can't (Won't) Quit Listen to Watch Party: BRIDGERTON S4: Viral Moments, Marriage Rules & The Life Of A Maid Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including Unleashed, the brand new show for Gen X women who need a laugh.  SUBSCRIBE here:Support independent women's media  Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  'I'm happily married and think celebrating Valentine's Day is cringe. Here are my 7 reasons why.' MIA FREEDMAN: 'The pants that divided the Internet a little bit.' 6 facts that will change the way you watch the new season of Bridgerton. 'The new season of Bridgerton fulfils a dream I didn't realise I had.' THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Emily Vernem, Jessie Stephens & Mia Freedman Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Welcome to a lil' taster of the very first episode of Unleashed, the podcast for Gen X women who just need a laugh right now. In your ears this week: actor Mary Coustas, Hollywood producer Bruna Papandrea, bestselling author Sally Hepworth and comedian Cathrine Mahoney. In this episode: How often do you shower? Bruna has everyone gasping and Sally realises she's doing it wrong. Heated Rivalry: the real reason straight women are frothing for gay men. The most comfy underwear and whose Skims snapped in front of Kim Kardashian? Charcuterie is cancelled: and Mary is not happy Jan. The best (and worst) products our hosts are trying and buying this week. Trying & buying:  Life360 Cerave Foaming Oil Cleanser  Makeup glasses Vibrating plate End bits:  Follow us on Instagram: @unleashed.show Love the show? Hit the plus (+) sign to Follow us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It’s free and helps other Gen X legends find us! Read the origin story of Unleashed here This show was produced and created by Mia Freedman Created and developed by Monique Bowley The Executive Producer is Talissa Bazaz Audio mastering and design by Tina Matolov Social Media Producer Gemma Donahoe

Why did the news about Kim Kardashian’s new boyfriend make Em Vernem cry? The F1 fans of Out Loud have a lot of big feelings about Kim and Lewis Hamilton’s romantic weekend in London and Paris, and the reason is... baffling.  Plus, a former Neighbours star is now a big deal in populist Right politics, globally. Yes, Holly Valance is busy trying to get Pauline Hanson elected, just as she’s trying to get Nigel Farage elected in the UK and threw a massive fundraiser for Trump in 2024. So, is Valance’s One Nation re-record of Kiss Kiss silly, or scary?  And.. Is it always better to be right? Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens and Em wrestle with the dichotomy of caring about facts and caring about being an infuriating over-corrector. Oh, and we found out the truth about Chappell Roan’s nipples. You. Are. Welcome.  SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: Scurrilous Gossip - Karl Stefanovic, Melania Trump & Sydney Sweeney, Oh My Listen: Fertility Vampires & The Murkiness Of 'Affair Baiting' Listen: It's Time To Burp Your House & The 3, 5, 7 Underwear Rule Listen: Celebrities Look Emaciated And I Don’t Know What To Say Listen: The New 'Wronged Wife' Divorce Playbook Listen: A Royal Summer Update Of Very Big Feelings Listen: The Productivity Hack Jessie Swears By & Rogue Habits We Can't (Won't) Quit Listen: "Hold On, I Just Need To Vent" Listen: Jessie's Twins Update & What We Really Did Over The Holidays Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including Unleashed, the brand new show for Gen X women who need a laugh.  SUBSCRIBE here:Support independent women's media  Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  Chappell Roan can take a stand, we apparently just need her to suffer a bit first. 'Young women are overtaking the F1 fan base. I know exactly why.' Kim Kardashian just made the smartest move of her career. Holly Valance rose to fame on Neighbours. Her life now looks very different. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

If a man breaks up with a 30-something woman who wants a child, is he guilty of more than changing his mind? Inspired by a viral column from the weekend, we explain the phenomena of the  ‘fertility vampire’. Also, you might have seen the disturbing photos of the man once known as Prince Andrew kneeling over a woman. They are just a few of the thousands and thousands of images released in this weekend’s drop from the Epstein Files. So what are they, what else is in there, and what might happen next? Are Margot Robbie and Jacob Elordi “affair baiting” on the press tour for Wuthering Heights? And is that… okay?  Plus, Kim Kardashian has finally told us exactly why Harry and Meghan wanted those pictures taken off their socials and Karl Stefanovic is cutting our grass. Jessie Stephens, Emily Vernem and Holly Wainwright unpack all that and why an Outlouder has shattered Holly’s family dreams.    Read Charlotte Ree's article here: He told me not to freeze my eggs. Then said he didn’t know if he wanted a baby with me SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next:  Listen: It's Time To Burp Your House & The 3, 5, 7 Underwear Rule Listen: Celebrities Look Emaciated And I Don’t Know What To Say Listen: The New 'Wronged Wife' Divorce Playbook Listen: A Royal Summer Update Of Very Big Feelings Listen: The Productivity Hack Jessie Swears By & Rogue Habits We Can't (Won't) Quit Listen: "Hold On, I Just Need To Vent" Listen: Jessie's Twins Update & What We Really Did Over The Holidays Listen to The Spill: Margot Robbie & Jacob Elordi’s Sexy PR Plan & Amanda Seyfried Just Ruined Her Oscar Campaign Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here:Support independent women's media  Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  The Epstein files are being released. Here are the most significant details so far. The one question everyone's asking about Andrew. Prince Harry said he misses the UK but can't take his children there. Buckingham Palace responded. In defence of historically inaccurate period dramas. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

You probably should be burping your house: every morning, every evening and whenever you get the urge throughout the day, tbh. Jessie Stephens explains to Emily Vernem and Holly Wainwright why not doing that is… a lil bit gross.  And while we’re hygiene-sharing, Em has a question for the group: How many pairs of underwear do you take if you are going away for a weekend? Holly thought she knew the answer to this question, but she’s definitely wrong.  Also, how many risks are parents allowed to take? We’re talking about Alex Honnold and Sanni McCandless - the man who just climbed a skyscraper with no ropes, net or parachute, and the mother of his little kids who watched him do it. Is it okay to just… carry on regardless with your passions, however isolating or deadly they are, once you have kids?  Plus: Be more “vegan + bacon”. Why that’s not an oxymoron, but a philosophy to live by in 2026.  Oh, and recommendations. Which this week include: Emily’s underwear edit - including Nala (the sexiest Aussie pants) and many more.  Holly’s enthusiasm for Oscar-nommed Marty Supreme, in cinemas now, and a high-brow discussion about Timothée's bottom.  And Jessie is watching The Pitt, Season Two, on HBO Max.  Urgent addition! Mia’s new baby, a show for Gen X women who want to laugh - Unleashed. Coming next week.  SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to Unleashed: https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/unleashedshow Listen to our latest episode: Celebrities Look Emaciated And I Don’t Know What To Say Listen: The New 'Wronged Wife' Divorce Playbook Listen: A Royal Summer Update Of Very Big Feelings Listen: The Productivity Hack Jessie Swears By & Rogue Habits We Can't (Won't) Quit Listen: "Hold On, I Just Need To Vent" Listen: Jessie's Twins Update & What We Really Did Over The Holidays Listen: Blake Lively, Taylor Swift, Revealing Texts & A Masterclass In Awkward Conversations Listen: Brooklyn Beckham, That ‘Inappropriate’ Dance & The Downfall Of A Family Brand Listen: Brooklyn Beckham Goes Nuclear: An Emergency Meeting Listen: The Superstar Podcaster Who’s Been ‘Red-Pilled’ & Was JLo Really That Rude? Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. We’re giving away a Your Reformer Pilates bed (worth $3,400) Subscribe to enter MOVE by Mamamia is the app that helps you fit movement into your every day. Whether you have 10 minutes, or 45, we've got the workout that fits your time, space and body. Get $20 off an annual subscription until the end of January when you use code OUTLOUD at checkout. Start your free trial today. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  Sanni Honnold knew what she signed up for. Time to refresh your underwear drawer? Here are 11 of the best. 'I was struggling to make my new year's resolutions stick. Then I learnt about "temptation bundling" THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Emily Vernem, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

What is happening in Minneapolis and why is it being called a “watershed” moment for Trump’s America? Sorry, Amelia Lester, you are not getting a week off from explaining something distressing happening in the USA. And, while we’re at it, what is with the Melania documentary, and why is it opening in cinemas in Australia this week? How are you meant to behave when your relationship ends in a very public mess not of your choosing? Hide away and lick your wounds? Spill every ugly detail in 25 Instagram stories? 2026 has other ideas and we have a new playbook for “wronged wife”, thanks to Australian former ’WAG’ Jules Neale.  Also, Amelia, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright consider whether Coco Gauff should have been allowed to have a tennis tantrum in peace. What’s the latest with the Beckham family meltdown and what do leaked celebrity text messages tell us about our own group-chats? SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next:  Listen: A Royal Summer Update Of Very Big Feelings Listen: The Productivity Hack Jessie Swears By & Rogue Habits We Can't (Won't) Quit Listen: "Hold On, I Just Need To Vent" Listen: Jessie's Twins Update & What We Really Did Over The Holidays Listen: Blake Lively, Taylor Swift, Revealing Texts & A Masterclass In Awkward Conversations Listen: Brooklyn Beckham, That ‘Inappropriate’ Dance & The Downfall Of A Family Brand Listen: Brooklyn Beckham Goes Nuclear: An Emergency Meeting Listen: The Superstar Podcaster Who’s Been ‘Red-Pilled’ & Was JLo Really That Rude? Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. We’re giving away a Your Reformer Pilates bed (worth $3,400) Subscribe to enter MOVE by Mamamia is the app that helps you fit movement into your every day. Whether you have 10 minutes, or 45, we've got the workout that fits your time, space and body. Get $20 off an annual subscription until the end of January when you use code OUTLOUD at checkout.Start your free trial today. SUBSCRIBE here:Support independent women's media  Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read: Everything you need to know about the Australian Open 2025: draw, key dates and where to watch. Why the shooting of Alex Pretti in Minneapolis is so significant. Okay, but where is Melania Trump? Learning how Taylor Swift and Blake Lively drifted apart hurts more than expected. 'This b*tch.' Taylor Swift's unsealed texts about Justin Baldoni. Why we haven't touched the Jules Neale story until now. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Are you one productivity hack away from finally nailing your life? We’ve got you. In this ‘special little treat’ episode (IT'S A DOUBLE EP, OUTLOUDERS 💃) Amelia Lester, Jessie Stephens, and Claire Murphy dive deep into the doable productivity hacks that might actually transform your working life - from the mental clarity of 'hard pants' to why Taylor Swift treats her energy like a luxury item. Then, keep your listening ears turned on for the next part of this banger of a double EP as Em Vernem joins Claire and Jessie to carry on the conversation. Our trio bring you the delightfully unhinged content you didn’t know you needed by dissecting the niche social media rabbit holes we go down late at night.  From 'Hot Dudes Reading' to 'Girls Carrying Shit' or the oddly soothing world of 'Rate My Spoon' (it’s a thing, promise), we’re celebrating the corners of the internet that keep us scrolling long after we should have been asleep. It’s fun, it’s a little bit weird, and it’s exactly what we’re into. Dive in, Outlouders — your algorithm will thank you. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: "Hold On, I Just Need To Vent" Listen: Jessie's Twins Update & What We Really Did Over The Holidays Listen: Blake Lively, Taylor Swift, Revealing Texts & A Masterclass In Awkward Conversations Listen: Brooklyn Beckham, That ‘Inappropriate’ Dance & The Downfall Of A Family Brand Listen: Brooklyn Beckham Goes Nuclear: An Emergency Meeting Listen: The Superstar Podcaster Who’s Been ‘Red-Pilled’ & Was JLo Really That Rude? Listen: We’ve Entered The Year Of Friction-maxxing Listen: Our Best Heated Rivalry Theory & Taylor Swift's Mum Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. We’re giving away a Your Reformer Pilates bed (worth $3,400) Subscribe to enter MOVE by Mamamia is the app that helps you fit movement into your every day. Whether you have 10 minutes, or 45, we've got the workout that fits your time, space and body. Get $20 off an annual subscription until the end of January when you use code OUTLOUD at checkout.Start your free trial today. SUBSCRIBE here:Support independent women's media  Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  'I tried the "save the day" method for two weeks. It's made me more productive at work.' ‘The 5 habits of highly productive people, and exactly what happened when we tried them.’ "I tried a 'shutdown routine' to end my workday feeling productive. Here's how it went." You're not imagining it, we've all stopped posting on social media in 2025. HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: '9 reasons women have never been hornier.' THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Outlouders, welcome to the third and final instalment of our Summer Book Club where we’re going out strong. 🔥 Em Vernem, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright dissect Melaleuca by Angie Faye Martin — the Australian debut crime novel we did not see coming and now can’t stop thinking about. This episode has it all: small-town secrets, outback noir vibes, corrupt cops, missing women, a brilliant Indigenous protagonist, and a twist that genuinely divided the hosts. We talk sense of place, why crime novels are such powerful social mirrors, and yes — the chickens. (You’ll understand.) ⚠️ Full spoilers ahead — this one’s for listeners who’ve read the book and are ready to argue lovingly about pacing, plausibility and that ending. Plus: why we’re thrilled Angie Faye Martin is writing a sequel and why Renee Taylor is a protagonist we want to follow anywhere. 📚 Outlouders, we know how many of you love these special episodes so... would you like us to keep the MMOL Book Club going? Let us know by emailing outloud@mamamia.com.au. Support independent women's media   Don't miss an episode ofMamamia Out Loud We’re giving away a Your Reformer Pilates bed (worth $3,400) Subscribe to enter. MOVE by Mamamia is the app that helps you fit movement into your every day. Whether you have 10 minutes, or 45, we've got the workout that fits your time, space and body. Get $20 off an annual subscription until the end of January when you use code OUTLOUD at checkout.Start your free trial today. SUBSCRIBE here:Support independent women's media  Watch Mamamia Out Loudon YouTube What to read:  A definitive list of the books everyone will be reading this summer. The 40 best books to inhale in a weekend, according to Mamamia readers. 'I’m obsessed with audiobooks, here are 10 of the best I’ve ever heard.' 11 of the very best beach reads to lose yourself in this summer. The 22 best books Reese Witherspoon has recommended. What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: "Hold On, I Just Need To Vent" Listen: Jessie's Twins Update & What We Really Did Over The Holidays Listen: Blake Lively, Taylor Swift, Revealing Texts & A Masterclass In Awkward Conversations Listen: Brooklyn Beckham, That ‘Inappropriate’ Dance & The Downfall Of A Family Brand Listen: Brooklyn Beckham Goes Nuclear: An Emergency Meeting Listen: The Superstar Podcaster Who’s Been ‘Red-Pilled’ & Was JLo Really That Rude? Listen: We’ve Entered The Year Of Friction-maxxing Listen: Our Best Heated Rivalry Theory & Taylor Swift's Mum Listen: Summer Book Club: All Fours - Miranda July Listen: Summer Book Club: Great Big Beautiful Life - Emily Henry Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Heated Rivalry is only the tip of a very sexy ice(hockey)berg. Straight women make up at least 60% of the audience of the booming MM (male to male) queer romance book market. Why? Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens and Emily Vernem unpack the theories behind the biggest TV hit of the Summer.   Also, no, you're not imagining it. Every streaming show you watch is talking to you like you're a little bit... dumb. Matt Damon knows why.  And, everyone has a venting friend. Sometimes, everyone is a venting friend. But now, 'venting' has been labelled toxic friendship behaviour. We want to know who we can vent to about that.  Plus, our recommendations. Find them below.  SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Recommendations Em recommendsChicago Fire the bingeable TV show that she's currently obsessed with. Jessie recommends underpants. Yes, treat yourself to an underwear refresh.  Holly recommends the movie Hamnet that was released in cinemas on January 15.   What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: Jessie's Twins Update & What We Really Did Over The Holidays Listen: Blake Lively, Taylor Swift, Revealing Texts & A Masterclass In Awkward Conversations Listen: Brooklyn Beckham, That ‘Inappropriate’ Dance & The Downfall Of A Family Brand Listen: Brooklyn Beckham Goes Nuclear: An Emergency Meeting Listen: The Superstar Podcaster Who’s Been ‘Red-Pilled’ & Was JLo Really That Rude? Listen: We’ve Entered The Year Of Friction-maxxing Listen: Our Best Heated Rivalry Theory & Taylor Swift's Mum Listen: A Spectacular Writers' Festival Collapse & The Jennifer Lawrence Dog Drama Listen: Why Mia Really Left... And Why She's Back Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. We’re giving away a Your Reformer Pilates bed (worth $3,400) Subscribe to enter MOVE by Mamamia is the app that helps you fit movement into your every day. Whether you have 10 minutes, or 45, we've got the workout that fits your time, space and body. Get $20 off an annual subscription until the end of January when you use code OUTLOUD at checkout. Start your free trial today. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  Heated Rivalry forced me to ask myself a fundamental question. You're thinking it, too.' Matt Damon and Ben Affleck's new Netflix thriller will keep you guessing until the very last second. The insane true story that inspired Ben Affleck and Matt Damon's new crime drama. 'Hamnet is the buzziest film of the year you're probably too scared to see. Allow me to change your mind.' Holly Out Loud on Substack THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Emily Vernem, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

The word "nuzzle" is being used and Victoria Beckham's humiliation is complete. Yes, we have an update on the devastating private family breakdown playing out in the most public of ways. Including: Why was Brooklyn Beckham's name trademarked to his mum? Why are wedding guests posting, and then deleting their recollections of 'that' dance? And what does the 'Atlantic Gap' have to do with all this? It's all here.  Also, there have been four shark attacks in New South Wales in just 48 hours, with devastating repercussions. So, is it time Australia got better and louder about shark education? And, do you have an age-gap friendship? Amelia Lester, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright discuss an article that argues every 20-something woman needs a 40-something friend. What do both sides of that dynamic get out of those relationships? And why do they confuse everyone?  Plus: The meaning behind Naomi Osaka's "catwalk" moment at the Australian Open.  OH, and if you can't get enough Beckham news, Mia Freedman hosted a subscriber episode for Outlouders, and you can listen to it, here.  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to The Quicky: Are Shark Attacks On The Rise? & Clare Stephens On The Beckham Family Feud Listen to our latest episode: Brooklyn Beckham Goes Nuclear: An Emergency Meeting Listen: The Superstar Podcaster Who’s Been ‘Red-Pilled’ & Was JLo Really That Rude? Listen: We’ve Entered The Year Of Friction-maxxing Listen: Our Best Heated Rivalry Theory & Taylor Swift's Mum Listen: A Spectacular Writers' Festival Collapse & The Jennifer Lawrence Dog Drama Listen: Why Mia Really Left... And Why She's Back Listen: Our Notes On The Golden Globes & Hollywood's 'Toxic Mums' Group Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. We’re giving away a Your Reformer Pilates bed (worth $3,400) Subscribe to enter MOVE by Mamamia is the app that helps you fit movement into your every day. Whether you have 10 minutes, or 45, we've got the workout that fits your time, space and body. Get $20 off an annual subscription until the end of January when you use code OUTLOUD at checkout.Start your free trial today. SUBSCRIBE here:Support independent women's media  Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read: HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: 'To understand the Beckham family estrangement, we need to go back to 1999.' Brooklyn Beckham is done with his family. David just gave a calculated response. CLARE STEPHENS: 'Please indulge my retelling of the Greatest Wedding Drama of the 21st Century.' Brooklyn Beckham just torched the Beckham family fairytale. The Beckham family and the girlfriend problem that won't go away. OPINION: 'Oh Victoria, your husband is not on your team.' THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

JLo has been accused of being rude when she didn't say "Hi" to the Glambot Guy on the red carpet at the Golden Globes last week. We all love stories of snooty celebrities but is this just an extension of telling women to "Smile"? Our (literal) foreign policy expert Amelia Lester is back and we have questions for her about Greenland. Namely, where is it? Why does Trump want it? And what happens if he gets it?  Also, one of the most listened to men in the world is being accused of 'red-pilling' his audience. But what is that, and has it happened to Steven Bartlett of Diary of a CEO?  Plus, on your Instagram it's 2016. So why are we so attracted to recent nostalgia, and what are the tell-tale signs that a pic was taken the year the whole world lurched towards the flaming bin? All that and other excellent stuff too on today's Mamamia Out Loud with Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens and Amelia Lester.  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: We’ve Entered The Year Of Friction-maxxing Listen: Our Best Heated Rivalry Theory & Taylor Swift's Mum Listen: A Spectacular Writers' Festival Collapse & The Jennifer Lawrence Dog Drama Listen: Why Mia Really Left... And Why She's Back Listen: Our Notes On The Golden Globes & Hollywood's 'Toxic Mums' Group Listen: One Of Us Has No Charisma & The New Dating Vocabulary Listen: The Fingering Renaissance Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. We’re giving away a Your Reformer Pilates bed (worth $3,400) Subscribe to enter MOVE by Mamamia is the app that helps you fit movement into your every day. Whether you have 10 minutes, or 45, we've got the workout that fits your time, space and body. Get $20 off an annual subscription until the end of January when you use code OUTLOUD at checkout.Start your free trial today. SUBSCRIBE here:Support independent women's media  Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  'Everyone is nostalgic for 2016. But I can't romanticise a place I barely escaped.' 'This podcast framed itself as a debate on feminism. It was the opposite.' Over 80 babies dead and food fast running out: The Venezuela crisis explained. Every single look from the 2026 Golden Globes red carpet. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Could you have guests over without cleaning all the way up? What about turning off the GPS when you're driving? How about not tracking your kids and partner, no matter what? This year, it's all about friction-maxxing. Learning to live without a few of the conveniences that have become crutches, all in the pursuit of becoming - no big deal - more human. Em is horrified and Jessie is inspired by this essay in The Cut by Kathryn Jezer-Morton.  Also, Holly's favourite Dax Shepard says that he will pay for his daughter to freeze her eggs when she turns 18. Is this genius, generous parenting, or snow-plough dadding in action?  And, is everyone brushing their faces now?  Plus, our recommendations include something glowy for your face, the best coffee pot in the world, and a book Jessie cannot stop thinking about.  SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Recommendations Em recommendsa Moka Coffee Pot  Jessie recommends Heart the Loverby Lily King. Holly recommends the L’Oreal Lumi Glotion.  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: Our Best Heated Rivalry Theory & Taylor Swift's Mum Listen: A Spectacular Writers' Festival Collapse & The Jennifer Lawrence Dog Drama Listen: Why Mia Really Left... And Why She's Back Listen: Our Notes On The Golden Globes & Hollywood's 'Toxic Mums' Group Listen: One Of Us Has No Charisma & The New Dating Vocabulary Listen: The Fingering Renaissance Listen: Summer Book Club: Great Big Beautiful Life - Emily Henry Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  MOVE by Mamamia is the app that helps you fit movement into your every day. Whether you have 10 minutes, or 45, we've got the workout that fits your time, space and body. Get $20 off an annual subscription until the end of January when you use code OUTLOUD at checkout. Start your free trial today. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here  including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. What to read:  'My word for 2026 is "discomfort." Without it, we're unravelling.' Kristen Bell, a bad joke, and the age of 'moral ammunition'. Why people are face brushing for better skin. Yes, face brushing. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Emily Vernem, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Since when did cosy chats about books suck up quite so many headlines? Adelaide Writers' Week is the longest-running literary event in Australia and this week it collapsed under the weight of its own controversy. So, Em asks Holly and Jessie, what are writers' festivals for, anyway? Jennifer Lawrence re-homed her dogs after she had a baby and Jessie wants to know why nobody warned her that talking about that will ruin her life. And Jessie would know.   When does a situationship become a boy/girlfriend? And when does a boy/girlfriend become a partner? And does anyone (apart from Raye) like the word husband? Thanks to Timothée Chalamet and Kylie Jenner, we have a new commitment ladder for relationships in 2026. Also, the job choice that can predict your age and stage.  And the new endo test that could change everything for women tired of waiting for an answer about why they're in agony.  Oh, and did Holly just get fleeced by Harry Styles?  SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: Why Mia Really Left... And Why She's Back Listen: Our Notes On The Golden Globes & Hollywood's 'Toxic Mums' Group Listen: One Of Us Has No Charisma & The New Dating Vocabulary Listen: The Fingering Renaissance Listen: Mel Robbins Knows Exactly What's Wrong With You & The Exact Science To Keep You Enjoying Your Job Listen: The Six Roles In Every Family. Which One Are You? Listen: Ugly Female Friendships & There's A Reason You're Stuck Listen: Is It OK To Flirt Outside Of Your Relationship? Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts hereincluding the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. MOVE by Mamamia is the app that helps you fit movement into your every day. Whether you have 10 minutes, or 45, we've got the workout that fits your time, space and body. Get $20 off an annual subscription until the end of January when you use code OUTLOUD at checkout. Start your free trial today. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  'It makes zero sense on paper. But I've finally figured out why Kylie and Timothée work.' Jennifer Lawrence and Robert Pattinson's movie is torture to watch. That's the point. Timothée Chalamet, Taylor Swift, and the age of the ego. Hey, didn't we already have the debate about working from home? THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

It's Golden Globes day and Mia Freedman is joining Holly, Jessie and Em to talk about frocks that landed and jokes that didn't. We're not mad, we'll just wait for our podcast category invite next year.  When a former Disney star decides to put her mothers' group on blast, famous faces included, what could make it worse? Only a defensive Dad entering the chat. Yes, we're unpacking Ashley Tisdale's viral "toxic mums" essay.  Also, the Beckhams' family estrangement gets brutal - thanks to a recipe for roast chicken. Plus an explainer on Trump's Venezuela and why the food pyramid looking upside down is bad news for cows.  Yes, Mamamia Out Loud is back from Summer break and Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens and Emily Vernem have a LOT to tell you.  SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: One Of Us Has No Charisma & The New Dating Vocabulary Listen: The Fingering Renaissance Listen: Mel Robbins Knows Exactly What's Wrong With You & The Exact Science To Keep You Enjoying Your Job Listen: The Six Roles In Every Family. Which One Are You? Listen: Ugly Female Friendships & There's A Reason You're Stuck Listen: Is It OK To Flirt Outside Of Your Relationship? Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. MOVE by Mamamia is the app that helps you fit movement into your every day. Whether you have 10 minutes, or 45, we've got the workout that fits your time, space and body. Get $20 off an annual subscription until the end of January when you use code OUTLOUD at checkout. Start your free trial today. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  The Ashley Tisdale and Hilary Duff mum group fallout, explained from the very start. As the Beckham family feud gets ugly, Nicola Peltz has made her biggest statement yet. Over 80 babies dead and food fast running out: The Venezuela crisis explained. Every celebrity Nikki Glaser mercilessly roasted in her Golden Globes monologue. Every single look from the 2026 Golden Globes red carpet. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

What actually makes someone charismatic? Can you develop 'rizz' or are you just born with it? We discover how researchers have literally invented something called the 'Charismulator' that can boost your charisma by 17 percent in just a few minutes. And, can you have too much of a good thing when it comes to charisma? Plus, the internet has gifted us some new vocabulary. 'Mankeeping', 'heterofatalism', 'hermeneutic labour' — fancy words that all translate to the same exhausting reality: what it's actually like to date men. Em Vernem's got the juicy dating stories to prove these terms exist for a reason. Support independent women's media Don't miss an episode ofMamamia Out Loud Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode ofParenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. Watch Mamamia Out Loudon YouTube What to read:  'This podcast framed itself as a debate on feminism. It was the opposite.' Tradwives, 'femcels' and dating strategists: Meet the women rejecting feminism. 'I call the dads of my students if they're sick.' 23 women on their daily acts of micro-feminism. Marriages, divorces, and a hit Netflix series: The cast of Girls, 13 years later. Lena Dunham disappeared after starring in Girls. She’s finally explaining why THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

🌶️ Spice alert, Outlouders. Today's episode is a little bit naughty so you might want to grab your headphones for this one. 🌶️ There was something very specific that happened on screen in 2025, and we need to talk about it. So m uch so, that we decided to pull it out from behind the paywall so everyone could enjoy it. From THAT Bridgerton carriage scene to Baby Girl, a certain intimate act was having a major moment.  We deep dive into why fingering is back, what it says about changing attitudes towards women's pleasure, and reveal the generation that's apparently having the best sex.  Listen in to find out who's top of the leaderboard for 🌶️ action.  Support independent women's media Don't miss an episode ofMamamia Out Loud Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode ofParenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. Watch Mamamia Out Loudon YouTube What to read:  'I cried while watching Bridgerton. Because I'll never have sex like that again.' 'The one line from The Idea Of You that changed how I feel about aging.' The real inspiration behind Anne Hathaway's The Idea Of You. A brutally honest review of Babygirl. Welcome to the fingering renaissance. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Who do you turn to when you need help or guidance in your life? In this episode, we discuss the irresistible pull of self-help gurus and why there’s only one right now who has absolutely met her moment - Mel Robbins.  Plus, American fashion designer Vera Wang says you should expect to ‘age out’ of your career.  Holly. Em and Clare Stephens unpack whether a jobs is only built for a season of your life… And what happens when that season ends. Support independent women's media Don't miss an episode ofMamamia Out Loud Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode ofParenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. Watch Mamamia Out Loudon YouTube What to read:  15 years ago, Mel Robbins hit rock bottom. She's now the most listened to woman in the world. The 'let them' theory has changed more than 2 million people's lives. Mel Robbins told us her advice for getting everything you want in life. It's surprisingly simple. How Gen Z killed the #girlboss. Why everyone just wants a 'dumb job' right now. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Season 3 of The White Lotus gave us a new iconic female friendship group. So why is the glossy, toxic dynamic of Laurie, Jaclyn and Kate cringingly familiar? Plus, ‘Maybe you’re not actually trying’. It’s a Substack post that stopped us in our tracks and it’s reframed everything we thought we knew about energy and effort. Mia has just one question that can determine your personality type.  Support independent women's media Don't miss an episode ofMamamia Out Loud Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode ofParenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. Watch Mamamia Out Loudon YouTube What to read:  As Elon Musk’s custody battles are dragged into the spotlight, one video speaks volumes. The White Lotus just nailed the ugly friendship dynamic we all recognise. From Koh Samui to Phuket: All of The White Lotus Season 3 filming locations. Two experts just identified the three words at the core of all adult friendship issues. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Flirting with strangers, batting eyelashes, smiling demurely — the joy of being single. But what about when you're in a relationship? For some people, the desire to flirt never goes away. But is that wrong or is it just a step in a non-monogamous direction? We just had to bring this juicy episode out from behind the paywall as a little treat to start off the new year in style so settle in Outlouders and enjoy. Support independent women's media Don't miss an episode ofMamamia Out Loud Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode ofParenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. Watch Mamamia Out Loudon YouTube What to read:  'I'm a self-professed pro.' An ex-bartender's 8 tricks for mastering the art of flirting. 'How "battery boys" saved my committed relationship.' 'A male gyno told me I was beautiful.' The problem with being a friendly woman. What is an Ethical Non-Monogamy (ENM) relationship and why am I seeing it everywhere? Does ADHD make monogamy harder? THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

It's January 1 and Outlouders know what that means. For almost a decade, on the first day of every year Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright have shared the single word that they hope will define the year ahead.  This year, they picked: Creativity, Nup, and, um, Let Them. But did they live by them? And what about Amelia Lester and Emily Vernem and the wider Outlouder family? It's time to find out, and to pick our words for 2026. Let's just say, some lessons have been learned.  Outlouders, you might hear your words on this special episode. And please, if you don't, run to the Facebook group and tell us what you chose.  Support independent women's media  Don't miss an episode ofMamamia Out Loud Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  Mel Robbins told us her advice for getting everything you want in life. It's surprisingly simple. The 'let them' theory has changed more than 2 million people's lives. HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: 'Embrace your final quarter "nup" energy.' JESSIE STEPHENS: On being pregnant with twins. As a twin. With twin brothers. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

In 2025, we went viral for a concept that was maybe a little too relatable – micropettiness. If you've been feeling slightly annoyed with loved ones over the holidays, maybe a little bit of micropettiness is perfectly acceptable for this time of year.  Plus, hoarding, throwing, selling and Swedish death cleaning — we’re talking about 'stuff' and why what we do with it goes far deeper than just clearing clutter. We discuss why you either love having lots of things around you (or not) and the reasons why many people – particularly parents – hold onto random objects. If you’ve spent the past week surrounded by a growing pile of presents and wrapping paper, we think you’ll enjoy this conversation. Support independent women's media Don't miss an episode ofMamamia Out Loud Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode ofParenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. Watch Mamamia Out Loudon YouTube What to read:  We asked women to share their acts of micro-pettiness. Prepare to take notes. Dear Millennials, it's time to bury another one of our beloved staples. It's time we addressed the micro-pettiness in the room. 'My house is always a mess after Christmas. Then I found the easiest decluttering hack.' 'I just discovered this very specific hack for decluttering your kitchen drawers.' THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Celebrity Traitors UK. Adolescence. The Studio. Lily Allen. A matte primer and a Japanese eye mask.  What's worth your time, your attention and your money this year according to Mamamia Out Loud?  These are just some of the recommendations Amelia Lester, Emily Vernem, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright are pulling out from the very long list of recommendations they made in 2025 for the second half of their comprehensive list of how to spend your holiday. Feel free to add to it.  Support independent women's media  TV & Movie Recommendations Holly recommends The Celebrity Traitors UK and The Four Seasons Jessie recommends We Live In Time Amelia recommendsThe Beast In Me Em recommends The Studio and One Of Them Days Book Recommendations Holly recommends Lonely Mouthby Jacqueline Maley Jessie recommends The Wedding People by Alison Espach Amelia recommends Ask Not: The Kennedys and the Women They Destroyed by Maureen Callahan Em recommends A Court of Thorns and Roses and the ACOTAR series by Sarah J. Maas Beauty Recommendations Holly recommends La Roche-Posay Cicaplast Baume B5+ Jessie recommends theLaura Mercier Pure Canvas Primer Hydrating Amelia recommends the Bobbi Brown Lip Liner in Rum Raisin Em recommends the Shark FlexStyle Air Styling & Drying System Best Random Reccos Holly recommends Lily Allen's West End Girl and CMAT's EURO-COUNTRYAlbum Jessie recommends giving blood and levelling up your smoothie.  Amelia recommendsusing theMegRhythm Gentle Steam Eye Maskby Kao Em recommends the analog bag. What To Listen To Next:  Don't miss an episode of Mamamia Out Loud Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

It’s the second episode of our Summer Book Club and this time, we’re diving headfirst into Great Big Beautiful Life by Emily Henry. So then, it was the book that promised joy, mess, meaning and maybe a mild existential spiral — did it deliver? 👀 In this episode, Em V, Jessie and Holly unpack: Why this story hits differently when you read it in summer The characters we wanted to hug… and the ones we wanted to gently shake Big love, big choices and the pressure to live a 'beautiful' life Whether this book is hopeful escapism or a mirror held a little too close And the one question it leaves you asking long after the last page It’s warm, emotional, occasionally unhinged (in a good way) and exactly the kind of book you want to argue about with friends. Read it. Feel things. Then come scream about it with us. Summer Book Club Episode 3 drops on January 25 when we'll be discussing the Melaleuca by Angie Faye Martin. 📚 Outlouders, we know how many of you love these special episodes so... would you like us to keep the MMOL Book Club going? Let us know by emailing outloud@mamamia.com.au. Support independent women's media Don't miss an episode ofMamamia Out Loud Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode ofParenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. Watch Mamamia Out Loudon YouTube What To Listen To Next:  Listen: Summer Book Club: All Fours - Miranda July Listen: Summer Book Club: Melaleuca — Angie Faye Martin What to read:  'I’m obsessed with audiobooks, here are 10 of the best I’ve ever heard.' 11 of the very best beach reads to lose yourself in this summer. If you loved A Court of Thorns and Roses, here are 6 romantasy books to read next. The 8 best spicy reads that aren't all-out smutty. The 22 best books Reese Witherspoon has recommended. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

It was the deeply personal subscriber episode which got everyone talking so what could we do but make it so that all of you could enjoy listening? In this special episode of Mamamia, Jesse, Holly, and Amelia dive into their personal tarot readings with guest Evelyn. They explore their futures, hopes, and fears, and Evelyn shares her insights on their careers, relationships, and life paths. From Jesse's potential TV series to Holly's book and Amelia's baby on the way, the trio gets real about their desires and doubts. With Evelyn's guidance, they uncover hidden truths and gain a deeper understanding of their lives. This episode is a must-listen for anyone curious about tarot readings and personal growth. Support independent women's media Don't miss an episode ofMamamia Out Loud Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode ofParenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. Watch Mamamia Out Loudon YouTube What to read:  HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: 'Exactly what a tarot reader told me.' 'I saw a psychic medium to connect with lost loved ones. What happened 2 days later shook me.' THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Look, it was random, it was rogue and so... it had to be repeated. This was one of our most talked about subscriber conversations this year so naturally, it made the cut when it came to deciding which episodes we'd bring out from behind the paywall as a little treat for you this summer. Enjoy. A particular flavour of jam. Disintegrating straws. Cutlery chaos. Some things aren’t just annoying — they’re downright offensive. After stumbling across a Substack by Tamsin Amy called Things I Deem Offensive, Em V was inspired to make her own list. Jessie and Holly? Naturally, they already had their grievances locked and loaded. From harsh bathroom lighting to chocolate that lies to your face, the trio have some notes for the world. Pufferfishes unite — consider this episode your official permission slip to complain loudly about the little things.  And do we want to hear what gets your hackles up? Hell, yeah.  Support independent women's media Don't miss an episode ofMamamia Out Loud Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode ofParenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. Watch Mamamia Out Loudon YouTube What to read:  'Brace yourselves. Here is my extensive list of things I deem deeply, personally offensive.' Things I Deem Offensive THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Open marriages have been quite the topic on the show this year so when we were deciding which shows to bring you as part of Our Most Talked About Conversations summer listening, this episode was a no-brainer. Mindy Kaling recently revealed she chose solo motherhood because she didn't want to compromise on money, career decisions, or parenting choices. She joins a growing number of high-profile women who are reimagining traditional approaches to family, marriage and relationships. We unpack the rise of intentional solo parenting and non-traditional family structures. Plus, everyone's talking about this surprise TV hit of the year (and no, it's not The White Lotus). We discuss why it's capturing everyone's attention. And in our recommendations: jelly beans vs brussels sprouts in an unexpected health showdown, and Mia discovers a soothing video trend that's helping her unwind. Support independent women's media Don't miss an episode of Mamamia Out Loud Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. Watch Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  'After 20 years, we opened up our marriage. Here are the rules that worked for us.' 'I asked my husband if we could open our marriage. Here's what happened.' 'I went out for a drink with another man. I came home to an open marriage.' The 'grey divorce' phenomenon that no one's talking about. 'The perks of divorce nobody talks about. But everyone should hear.' THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

What's worth your time, your attention and your money this year according to Mamamia Out Loud?  So glad you asked. Well... Sinners. Blusher. Chalamet. Bed Hair. Eyeliner, and a 40-year-old book. These are just some of the recommendations Amelia Lester, Emily Vernem, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright are pulling out from the very long list of reccos they made in 2025 for the first half of their comprehensive list. Feel free to give feedback. It's a gift, you know. Support independent women's media  Movie & TV Recommendations Holly recommends A Real Pain and Sinners   Jessie recommends Titan: The Oceangate Submersible Disaster Amelia recommendsA Complete Unknown and Springsteen: Deliver Me from Nowhere Em recommends  Sinners too and Superman  Book Recommendations Holly recommends One Hundred Years of Betty by Debra Oswald Jessie recommends The Elements by John Boyne  Amelia recommendsShow Don't Tell by Curtis Sittenfeld Em recommends How to End a Love Story by Yulin Kuang Beauty Recommendations Holly recommends Ellis Faas Skin Veil Foundation   Jessie recommends Kevin Murphy Bedroom Hair and the Baies Room Spray Amelia recommends the Rare Beauty Perfect Strokes Matte Liquid eyeliner Em recommends the Sephora Collection New Cream Lip Stain in Naughty Burgundy Best Hacks & Random Reccos Holly recommends Virginia Trioli’s green beans and RecipeTin Eats mango pancakes Jessie recommends using Depop or Facebook Marketplace.   Amelia recommendsgetting the newspaper delivered.  Em recommends a cleanser hack where she sits in front of the TV massaging her oil cleanser in for 20 minutes. What To Listen To Next:  Don't miss an episode of Mamamia Out Loud Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Which of your festive traditions are just plain 'tacky'? Emily Vernem has a list, and you're probably on it. Holly Wainwright and Jessie Stephens certainly are.  This is the last 'normal programming' show for 2025, and we're leaning into comfort and joy. We're bringing all our predictions for 2026 including the fate of some celebrity relationships, the details of the most famous woman in the world's wedding dress, and whether or not it will be the Year Of The Unusual Face. We also revisit what we said would happen in 2025. Some of us were more right than others.  Plus, the letter you should absolutely write yourself before the year is out, and recommendations.  Also: Here is the essay, by Maggie Alderson, that inspired our 'letter' chat: https://www.mamamia.com.au/december-letter-to-self/ Support independent women's media Recommendations Em recommendsHeated Rivalry for all your steamy, hockey playing TV needs. Jessie recommends Anatomy of a Cancellation on ABC. Holly recommends the Beth's Dead podcast.  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: Our Glimmers of 2025 Listen: The Bondi Stories We’ll Never Forget & How To Be A Good Guest Listen: The Unspoken Etiquette Of Friendship Listen: A Sunday Evening At Bondi Beach Listen: The Rudest Question You've Definitely Asked This Week Listen: Jessie's Twin Pregnancy Update: They're Doing What Now? Listen: The Performers Who Have Had Enough Of Australia Listen: Things You Fantasise About When You're Single Listen: The Most Surprising Relationship Red Flag Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  'What's your favourite nostalgic Christmas tradition? Your answer tells me everything.' 'I asked a psychic for her 2025 predictions, and what she said floored me.' 'It makes zero sense on paper. But I've finally figured out why Kylie and Timothée work.' 'Millions of people are watching Heated Rivalry. It's the hottest TV show I've seen all year.' A brutally honest review of Meghan Markle's new Netflix series. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Emily Vernem, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

There are names we will never forget from the Bondi attacks. On today's show, Jessie, Holly and Amelia want to honour just a few of the many heroes who risked — and in some cases lost — their lives trying to save others in the worst terror attack ever to happen on Australia's soil. And we want to tell you a little bit about what it feels like in Sydney, and at Bondi at the moment.  Not everyone is able to turn their attention elsewhere this week, but for those who can and want to, we're having some other conversations, too. Like, Taylor Swift, Timothee Chalamet and the era of being able to say, "Yeah, I'm pretty good at this" without cringe.  And, the power of gathering. Being together has never felt more urgent, but at whose house, and who's bringing the cake? Even if you hate hosting, it's hard to avoid at this time of year and you know what makes it better? Good guests. We tell you how to be one, and Amelia shares a thank-you note rule that impressed us all.   Resources: If you or someone you know is in need of support contact help is available:  Lifeline 13 11 14  Beyond Blue 1300 22 4636 1800RESPECT  1800 737 732  Kids Helpline 1800 55 1800 Mental Health Line 1800 011 511 Transcultural Mental Health Line 1800 648 911  Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: The Unspoken Etiquette Of Friendship Listen: A Sunday Evening At Bondi Beach Listen: The Rudest Question You've Definitely Asked This Week Listen: Jessie's Twin Pregnancy Update: They're Doing What Now? Listen: The Performers Who Have Had Enough Of Australia Listen: Things You Fantasise About When You're Single Listen: The Most Surprising Relationship Red Flag Listen: The Seven Year Friendship Rule Listen: The 6 Different Types Of People Pleasers Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  Boris and Sofia Gurman bravely tried to stop the first bullet. They died in each others arms. The cost of running towards danger. Three days on, this is what we know about the Bondi terror attack. These are the people who should have made it home from Bondi Beach. The 6 unexpected things we learnt from Taylor Swift's new docuseries. 'I'm a chef and food influencer. Here are my 6 best hacks for hosting a dinner party this weekend.' THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

It's not a usual show today, because it's not a usual day.  At sunset on Sunday, at Australia's most famous beach, Australia experienced the worst act of terrorism ever to take place on our soil. As the local Jewish community celebrated the beginning of Chanukah, families gathered around food, face-painting and even a petting zoo for an 'everyone is welcome' opening to the Festival Of Lights. And two men opened fire.  Some Outlouders will be directly affected by what happened on Sunday. Others will be far removed but asking how this could happen here in Australia, and what they can do to help. Some will just want to talk it over. Today Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright and Amelia Lester are here to do exactly that.  Resources: If you or someone you know is in need of support contact help is available:  Lifeline 13 11 14  Beyond Blue 1300 22 4636 1800RESPECT  1800 737 732  Kids Helpline 1800 55 1800 Mental Health Line 1800 011 511 Transcultural Mental Health Line 1800 648 911  Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: The Rudest Question You've Definitely Asked This Week Listen: Jessie's Twin Pregnancy Update: They're Doing What Now? Listen: The Performers Who Have Had Enough Of Australia Listen: Things You Fantasise About When You're Single Listen: The Most Surprising Relationship Red Flag Listen: The Seven Year Friendship Rule Listen: The 6 Different Types Of People Pleasers Listen: The Thing You Can’t Say About Having Kids Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  This is who we are. A man in a white T-shirt. Not a terrorist with a gun. These are the people who should have made it home from Bondi Beach. As gunshots rang out across Bondi Beach, these ordinary people did extraordinary things. 'This cowardly act of terrifying violence is painful to see.' Police update on Bondi Beach terror attack. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

It's the time of the year when you have to rub up against other people in all kinds of ways. And so obviously Jessie, Holly and Em needed to bring an updated etiquette guide. So, what's a great question, what's a rude one and do you always, always need to give a gift receipt? And, are you struggling to make a big decision about the new year? Of course you are. We have a new framework to help: Is this a Hat, Haircut or Tattoo problem?  Plus, a dilemma for the ages: Is a straight man cheating if he continually 'likes' another woman’s Instagram posts? Thankfully, a court has cleared this up.  And of course, recommendations: Something to make life easier, something to make yourself smell lovely and something to make the Gen Xers feel smug.  Support independent women's media Em recommendsthe Ouai hair and body mist in the scent St Barts Jessie recommends the Dinner Ladies Christmas dishes Holly recommends the essay in the New York Times, Is Gen X Actually the Greatest Generation? and creating a lucky dip of loved Christmas movies using an empty jar. What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: Jessie's Twin Pregnancy Update: They're Doing What Now? Listen: The Performers Who Have Had Enough Of Australia Listen: Things You Fantasise About When You're Single Listen: The Most Surprising Relationship Red Flag Listen: The Seven Year Friendship Rule Listen: The 6 Different Types Of People Pleasers Listen: The Thing You Can’t Say About Having Kids Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  An expert told us there are 5 things a partner will do before they cheat on you. 'Just 10 Christmas gifts that won't end up in the "re-gift" pile.' Exactly what to wear to your work Christmas party, according to a fashion editor. A definitive list of the 13 best Christmas movies of all time. My boss is about to become my mother-in-law. So I wrote a list of 7 rules for her to follow. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Em Vernem, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Performers are totally over it, and their end-of-year burnout is highly relatable content. But also, are we, the crowds, worse than we've ever been? This week a 90s rock legend ripped into a concert-goer at a Melbourne show and we want to know — do any of us know how to behave any more?  And, in what seems like very unsurprising news, adult content creator Bonnie Blue has been arrested in Bali. But why did she take her 'bang bus' there in the first place? Plus, scams. Amelia has a scam story that will make your hair stand on end, Holly says fears of being ripped-off make holiday shopping harder than battling traffic at the carpark and Jessie wonders what living in an era of mass distrust is doing to us all.  Also, Pammy and Liam, Katy and Justin, Kylie and Timmmeeee — we're bringing you the celebrity romance and fauxmance updates not one of us asked for. Oh, and bananas.  Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: Things You Fantasise About When You're Single Listen: The Most Surprising Relationship Red Flag Listen: The Seven Year Friendship Rule Listen: The 6 Different Types Of People Pleasers Listen: The Thing You Can’t Say About Having Kids Listen: The Good Guest's Guide To Wedding Etiquette Listen: The Woman Who 'Caused' Family Estrangement Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau just hard-launched their relationship. 'Celebrities keep pulling PR stunts and I'm officially exhausted.' MIA FREEDMAN: 'What the Taylor concert was really like.' A woman, a glass box, and 2,000 men. We’ve been here before, and it never ends well. 'I watched Bonnie Blue's documentary. She had me convinced until the final 5 minutes.' THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift never fight. Nor do George and Amal Clooney. Not about work, money, cleaning, travel or whose turn it is to feed the dog (sorry, cats.) An aspirational relationship goal? Or a flashing red flag? Also, this week the whole world is looking at Australia as our world-first social media delay kicks in on Wednesday, December 10. So, what are we to make of the poll that says only a third of Aussie parents are actually going to enforce the ban that experts are calling "a mothers' revolution"?  Plus, Oprah Winfrey is in Australia and drawing huge crowds with her trademark a-ha moments. So why is Oprah still so interesting to Aussie women in 2025?  And, there's a very relevant Word of The Year, and a very intimidating Colour Of The Year, and Amelia, Jessie and Holly have a theory that they're linked.  Support independent women's media  Friends, what’s your Word of the Year for 2026, and why? Please let us know by emailing: outloud@mamamia.com.au or, even better, by leaving us a voice note. What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: The Seven Year Friendship Rule Listen: The 6 Different Types Of People Pleasers Listen: The Thing You Can’t Say About Having Kids Listen: The Good Guest's Guide To Wedding Etiquette Listen: The Woman Who 'Caused' Family Estrangement Listen: All The Things We Didn’t Need To Know About The Sex Scandal Of The Year Listen: So, Are You Rude With Money? Listen: The Women Quietly Quitting Their Husbands & Your High School Ghost Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  Oprah spoke to parents and kids on either side of 'no-contact.' These are their stories. HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: 'How to really have a conversation with your kids about the social media ban.' We break down everything you need to know about Australia's under-16 social media ban. 'Travis Kelce admitted one thing he never does with Taylor Swift. It's the biggest red flag ever.' Bonnie thinks all men should cheat on their wives. Before you get angry, read this. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Should you 'shed' friends every seven years? We hear out the expert who says yes. She also knows why you feel like you have no mates, and has some advice for how to attract some new ones. And no, Jessie, Em and Holly don't all like it. Also, the new micro-compatibility test for prospective partners. Lead question: How long before a flight do you like to get to the airport?  Plus, all our recommendations. One of which is for the stellar Out Loud gift guide, coming into your inbox from the Holly Out Loud newsletter tomorrow — but only if you're subscribed: Support independent women's media - subscribe here. MERCH NEWS: Time is running out. The sale on Out Loud T-shirts and tote bags is ending soon! Get the T-shirt for $50 and the tote bag for $20. Sale ends Dec 6. Shop now. 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉 Recommendations Em recommendsthe Skoop Anti Chafe Balm that she swears by. Jessie recommends The Names by Florence Knapp.  Holly recommends A Very Outloud Gift Guide, the ultimate one-stop shop on the Holly Out Loud Substack. This gift guide releases Saturday morning. What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: The 6 Different Types Of People Pleasers Listen: The Thing You Can’t Say About Having Kids Listen: The Good Guest's Guide To Wedding Etiquette Listen: The Woman Who 'Caused' Family Estrangement Listen: All The Things We Didn’t Need To Know About The Sex Scandal Of The Year Listen: So, Are You Rude With Money? Listen: The Women Quietly Quitting Their Husbands & Your High School Ghost Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  'In news no one saw coming, "handies" are the new d**k pics.' 'Young women are overtaking the F1 fan base. I know exactly why.' 'I'd never heard of a friendship "catch-up trap". Turns out, I'm in one.' 'Sometimes the cracks get too big.' Why I'm letting a 40-year friendship go. These are the 8 dates you need to go on to know if you're compatible with someone. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Emily Vernem, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Can you change a child's birthday because it's a bit... inconvenient for you? Content creator Indy Clinton wants us to believe she's doing just that with her "Christmas baby" and Sagittarians everywhere have thoughts. Plus, Sienna Miller is pregnant and in a negligee on the British Fashion Awards this week. At 43, Holly wants to know, is this the quintessential representation of the new era of agelessness?  Also, Pilates is dead, strength training is on its way out and a mobility obsession is on its way in - but, Amelia asks, is scolding people with the "correct" exercise trends really the way to make women move? And an essay about motherhood ambivalence has Jessie pufferfishing. So, if you're not sure if you want kids, should you do it?  REFERENCES, friends: If You're On The Fence About Having Kids, Don't Do It - By Zoya Patel.  Dr Stacey Sims being interviewed by Holly on MID. 🚢 Subscribe to be in the running to WIN THE ULTIMATE SUMMER HOLIDAY: Royal Caribbean Cruise Giveaway! Click here for more information Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: The Good Guest's Guide To Wedding Etiquette Listen: The Woman Who 'Caused' Family Estrangement Listen: All The Things We Didn’t Need To Know About The Sex Scandal Of The Year Listen: So, Are You Rude With Money? Listen: The Women Quietly Quitting Their Husbands & Your High School Ghost Listen: The 5 Days You Should Schedule Every Month Listen: The Most Telling Detail In That Meghan Sussex Profile Listen: ‘I Was An Ugly Child’ & The 5-Second Underthinking Rule Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  Sienna Miller is 41 and pregnant. Her instinct is to joke about it. Indy Clinton was determined to unmask her trolls. She's just been handed a 64-page report. 'Is there a "right time" to have kids? I asked 15 mums if they had regrets.' Julia asked mothers if they regretted having their children. She received 10,000 responses. Just 5 strength exercises every woman in perimenopause needs. 'I thought exercise wasn't for me. This one change proved me wrong.' THE END BITS:  For the first time ever, MMOL T-shirts and tote bags are discounted! Get the T-shirt for $50 and the tote bag for $20. Sale ends Dec 6. Shop now. 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉 GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Beer cans with the bride and groom's faces on them, a dress that just HAD to be Aussie, and a dog in a dress... Yes, we're talking about Albo's wedding, and the problem with marrying the Prime Minister.  Also, what does the winner of the TikTok Awards — a dad of four who posts pranks and skits with his kids online — tell us about the different standards for the way men and woman 'sharent'? And everyone's talking about an Oprah Winfrey show episode, which is extremely 2011, about family estrangement, and the 'contagion' of going 'No Contact' with your family. Only problem is... Are all these boundaries kind of Oprah's fault? Plus, why Robert Irwin has achieved world domination by being... nice.  Holly, Amelia and Jessie get into it. AND into some Mamamia merch. For the first time ever, MMOL T-shirts and tote bags are discounted! Get the T-shirt for $50 and the tote bag for $20. Sale ends Dec 6. Shop now. 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉 Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: All The Things We Didn’t Need To Know About The Sex Scandal Of The Year Listen: So, Are You Rude With Money? Listen: The Women Quietly Quitting Their Husbands & Your High School Ghost Listen: The 5 Days You Should Schedule Every Month Listen: The Most Telling Detail In That Meghan Sussex Profile Listen: ‘I Was An Ugly Child’ & The 5-Second Underthinking Rule Listen: Everything That Shouldn't Be Embarrassing But Absolutely Is Listen: So That's The Reason I Feel Bad About… My Eyelids? Listen: Big Brother Australia, The Golden Bachelor & The TV ‘Algorithm Theory’ Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  Robert Irwin is the walking green flag the world needs. Everything we know about Anthony Albanese and Jodie Haydon's top-secret wedding. 'Sam and Marie have been estranged for years. Here's how I got them speaking again.' Oprah just called family estrangement an 'epidemic.' A relationship coach claims she caused it. 'I moved to be closer to my grandkids. Then my daughter sent one brutal message.' THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud