There’s a four-letter word taking over the internet — it rhymes with munt — and let’s just say it’s dividing the group chat. We’re diving in, side-eyes and all.

Then, has personal style officially left the building? Mia and Jessie are joined by Em Vernem to break down the four forces that have turned fashion into chaos.

Plus, our recommendations: the show you’ll binge in a day, the book every Outlouder needs to read, and the one thing guaranteed to scare the crap out of you.

And in Best & Worst: gut problems, coping with grief, and a weekend that took 'tradwife' to a whole new level.

What To Listen To Next: 
Listen to our latest episode: The Question We're Finally Ready To Answer
Listen: Meghan's Bedtime Routine Is A Lot
Listen: Caroline Bessette-Kennedy: The Original Influencer
Listen: We're Fighting About Being Ugly
Listen: What Supercommunicators Know That We Don't
Listen: Sex Toys, Borrowing Money & A Dad's Group Chat Faux Pas

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Recommendations: 

Jessie wants you to watch Black Mirror season 7.

Em Vernem wants you to watch Sinners by Ryan Coogler.

Mia wants you to read He Would Never by Holly Wainwright. 

What to read:
You might not want to ask your stylist for the latest hair trend.
Oxford shirts are your new wardrobe essential. We found options from $25.
'The 3 pieces I'm buying to upgrade my style this year as a fashion editor.'
'I'm a fashion editor, and these are the 7 things I wore on repeat all year.'

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Credits

Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Em Vernem

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producers: Coco & Tessa

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

There&rsquo;s a four-letter word taking over the internet &mdash; it rhymes with munt &mdash; and let&rsquo;s just say it&rsquo;s dividing the group chat. We&rsquo;re diving in, side-eyes and all.
Then, has personal style officially left the building? Mia and Jessie are joined by Em Vernem to break down the four forces that have turned fashion into chaos.
Plus, our recommendations: the show you&rsquo;ll binge in a day, the book every Outlouder needs to read, and the one thing guaranteed to scare the crap out of you.
And in Best &amp; Worst: gut problems, coping with grief, and a weekend that took 'tradwife' to a whole new level.
What To Listen To Next:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/ask-us-anything-hecklers-and-recommendations">The Question We're Finally Ready To Answer</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/michelle-obama-shock-absorber">Meghan's Bedtime Routine Is A Lot</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/kennedy-women">Caroline Bessette-Kennedy: The Original Influencer</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/were-fighting-about-being-ugly">We're Fighting About Being Ugly</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/how-to-be-a-supercommunicator">What Supercommunicators Know That We Don't</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/loaning-friends-money/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Sex Toys, Borrowing Money &amp; A Dad's Group Chat Faux Pas</a></li>
</ul>
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Recommendations:&nbsp;
Jessie&nbsp;wants you to watch <a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;amp;xs=1&amp;amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.netflix.com%2Ftitle%2F70264888">Black Mirror season 7</a>.
Em Vernem wants you to watch <a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;amp;xs=1&amp;amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eventcinemas.com.au%2FMovie%2FSinners">Sinners by Ryan Coogler.</a>
Mia wants you to read <a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;amp;xs=1&amp;amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.booktopia.com.au%2Fhe-would-never-holly-wainwright%2Fbook%2F9781761264849.html%3Fsource%3Dpla%26gad_source%3D1%26gad_campaignid%3D21844631717%26gbraid%3D0AAAAA-Ia9hPtd1aGIP4ehZosTouOqQKsO%26gclid%3DCj0KCQjwt8zABhDKARIsAHXuD7YSTXT4lJtFsnibnXoznUEXdV6JWshPUX5sCuAx88M5c_y7NKuhpi8aAm4qEALw_wcB">He Would Never by Holly Wainwright.</a>&nbsp;
What to read:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/c-bob-hairstyle-trend-2025">You might not want to ask your stylist for the latest hair trend.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/how-to-make-better-friends-at-work/"></a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/shop-oxford-shirts/">Oxford shirts are your new wardrobe essential. We found options from $25.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/fashion-editor-personal-style-2025/">'The 3 pieces I'm buying to upgrade my style this year as a fashion editor.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/best-shopping-buys-of-2024/">'I'm a fashion editor, and these are the 7 things I wore on repeat all year.'</a></li>
</ul>
GET IN TOUCH:
Feedback? We&rsquo;re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au
Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! <a href="https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960">Send us a voice message</a>
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Credits
Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens &amp; Em Vernem
Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas
Audio Producer: Leah Porges
Video Producer: Josh Green
Junior Content Producers: Coco &amp; Tessa
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

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