Hairy chests are back. Hurrah! That’s it. Moving on… 

Mother’s Day is this Sunday and the 'active duty' debate is officially ruining the vibe. Why has a day for mums turned into a high-stakes content pillar and also please enjoy the very frank text Clare Stephens sent her partner about presents. 

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Plus, we talk about the big things we’ve said NO to in our lives and find out that actually, Emily Vernem could have been a reality TV star by now. 

And, Holly did something in the office bathroom she fears was a breach of etiquette. 

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Em recommendsBondiBoost miracle mist.

Clare recommends the new Serial podcast, The Idiot.

Holly recommends Famesick by Lena Dunham. 

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Listen: She Opened The Fridge. What She Found Ended Her Friendship.
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Hairy chests are back. Hurrah! That&rsquo;s it. Moving on&hellip;&nbsp;
Mother&rsquo;s Day is this Sunday and the 'active duty' debate is officially ruining the vibe. Why has a day for mums turned into a high-stakes content pillar and also please enjoy the very frank text Clare Stephens sent her partner about presents.&nbsp;
VOTE FOR US: Help Out Loud win the People&rsquo;s Choice category of the Australian Audio Awards.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/FM8YWWK"> Find the link to vote right here</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;
Plus, we talk about the big things we&rsquo;ve said NO to in our lives and find out that actually, Emily Vernem could have been a reality TV star by now.&nbsp;
And, Holly did something in the office bathroom she fears was a breach of etiquette.&nbsp;
REMEMBER - If you become a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">SUBSCRIBER</a>, you get two extra Out Loud eps a week, as well as access to every podcast and story ever made by Mamamia.&nbsp;
Recommendations
Em recommends <a href="https://fave.co/4tQJBQ6">BondiBoost miracle mist.</a>
Clare recommends the new Serial podcast,&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-idiot/id1884735227">The Idiot.</a>
Holly recommends <a href="https://fave.co/4n736Bs">Famesick</a> by Lena Dunham.&nbsp;
What To Listen To Next:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Listen to Unleashed: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/unleashedshow/i-turned-down-anna-wintour-and-id-do-it-again/">'I Turned Down Anna Wintour And I'd Do It Again'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/scurrilous-gossip-kris-jenner-facelift-slipping/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Scurrilous Gossip: A Facelift Slippage &amp; &lsquo;Wildly Unhappy&rsquo; Royals</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/met-gala-blake-lively/">The Red Carpet Moment That Answers The Blake Lively Question</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-met-gala-heidi-klum/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol"> Fake Nips &amp; Wandering Hands: Mia&rsquo;s Met Gala Verdict</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/harry-styles-meryl-streep/">We Do Not Agree On The Taxi Cab Theory</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/weight-loss-medication-friendship/">She Opened The Fridge. What She Found Ended Her Friendship.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-brene-brown-resentment-theory/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">The Real Reason You Resent Your Friends</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/white-lotus-walk-out/">The One Minute Of Live TV That Undid A Noughties Icon</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/scurrilous-gossip-harry-zoe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Scurrilous Gossip: An Engagement, An Affair &amp; A Royal F-You</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/cancelled/cancelled-jessie-twins-birth-story/"></a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&amp;ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA">Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts&nbsp;</a></li>
</ul>
Discover more <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/">Mamamia Podcasts here </a>including the very latest episode of <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/parenting-out-loud/">Parenting Out Loud</a>, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
SUBSCRIBE here:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol"> Support independent women's media</a>&nbsp;
You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/mamamia-out-loud/id928350893">Mamamia Out Loud on Apple</a>
What to read:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/paul-anthony-kelly-love-story-jfk/">Thank god Hollywood has started hiring hot men off the street again.</a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/anti-goals/"></a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/mothers-day-gifts-2026/">'I'm a fashion writer. Here are 8 things I'd easily buy my picky mum for Mother's Day.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/how-to-say-no-to-others/">'What Zo&euml; Foster Blake taught me about how to say no, and why it matters.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/modern-etiquette-for-work/">Modern Etiquette: The 23 workplace rules you&rsquo;re definitely breaking.</a></li>
</ul>
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CREDITS:
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Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock
Video Producer: Josh Green
Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.
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Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It’s conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It&rsquo;s conversation at its most addictive.

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Writing a List of Anti-Goals Made Me Quit My Job

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