When Protein-maxxing meets Queue Culture: Someone decided frozen yoghurt is the new juice and now there are lines around the block. 

Put your phone down and sit on a Scrolly Chair.

How A-listers decide who sits where on a talk show and what it tells you about your dinner out. Also, why does Holly want the centre pod chair so bad?

The Out Loud hosts have handpicked their all-time favourite reads and one subscriber is winning the entire 12-book stack. Subscribe to Mamamia to be automatically entered to win. Current subscriber? You're already in the draw. T&Cs apply.

Recommendations

Mia recommends: A hairdryer diffuser, and Colour Wow Dream Coat For Curly Hair. 

Em recommends: Ride or Die, a buddy comedy series starring Hannah Waddingham and Octavia Spencer. All 8 episodes are out on Prime Video. 

Holly recommends: Her latest lip obsessions: Model Co. Sheer Tint Lip Balm in Girl Boss $15.40. Mecca Max Pout Pencil in classy with some clear lip balm over the top - or Dr Lipp Lip Tint in Elderberry

AND for spenny - Violette FR - Lip Nectar in Pois De Senteur $48 - a gloss AND a stain. 

Oh, and… The Weights Program on Move by Mamamia. 

Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go toveryperi.com.au and join me today. You hot? Same. Buy today and save 40%

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Listen: You’re ‘Too Old’ For A Present & We Got A Cheerleader In Trouble
Listen: Mia: "I Was 17, He Was 33."
Listen: Goodbye Sam, WTF Charlize & One Very Messy Celebrity Split
Listen: Lena’s Revenge, Harry’s Secret Tea & Clare Calls In
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'My phone addiction was genuinely taking over my life. This is the only thing that fixed it.'
"He was just exhausting." Graham Norton shares his best and worst guests.
'Sorry to all booth lovers': An extremely controversial ranking of the best and worst places to sit at restaurants.
HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: Just 13 rules for friends' dinners in 2026.
The exercise app for any body, anywhere. Move by Mamamia.

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Emily Vernem

Acting Group Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Executive Producer: Grace Rouvray

Video Producer: Josh Green

Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

When Protein-maxxing meets Queue Culture: Someone decided frozen yoghurt is the new juice and now there are lines around the block. Put your phone down and sit on a Scrolly Chair.
How A-listers decide who sits where on a talk show and what it tells you about your dinner out. Also, why does Holly want the centre pod chair so bad?
The Out Loud hosts have handpicked their all-time favourite reads and one subscriber is winning the entire 12-book stack.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol&amp;utm_content=mmol-book-giveaway">Subscribe to Mamamia to be automatically entered to win.</a> Current subscriber? You're already in the draw. T&amp;Cs apply.
Recommendations
Mia recommends: A hairdryer diffuser, and <a href="https://fave.co/4wixXyT">Colour Wow Dream Coat For Curly Hair.</a>&nbsp;
Em recommends: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFGAxkTRAG8">Ride or Die</a>, a buddy comedy series starring Hannah Waddingham and Octavia Spencer. All 8 episodes are out on Prime Video.&nbsp;
Holly recommends: Her latest lip obsessions: <a href="https://fave.co/4fMhH33">Model Co. Sheer Tint Lip Balm</a> in Girl Boss $15.40. <a href="https://fave.co/4yA04Lc">Mecca Max Pout Pencil</a> in classy with some clear lip balm over the top - or <a href="https://fave.co/3TMeUyk">Dr Lipp Lip Tint</a> in Elderberry
AND for spenny - <a href="https://www.mecca.com/en-au/violette-fr/lip-nectar-pois-de-senteur-I-077189/?cgpath=makeup">Violette FR - Lip Nectar</a> in Pois De Senteur $48 - a gloss AND a stain.&nbsp;
Oh, and&hellip; The Weights Program on <a href="https://move.mamamia.com.au/">Move by Mamamia</a>.&nbsp;
Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We&rsquo;ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to<a href="http://veryperi.com.au/"> veryperi.com.au</a> and join me today. You hot? Same. Buy today and save 40%
Keen for more? Check out the&nbsp;<a href="https://substack.com/@mamamiaoutloud">Mamamia Out Loud newsletter</a>.
What To Listen To Next:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/hassler-friend/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Do You Have A Hassler Friend? (You Do.)</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/barnaby-joyce-dog/"> Barnaby&rsquo;s 'Imaginary' Dog &amp; You Can't Get Into This Club</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/matty-healy-gabriette-wedding/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">The Cool Girls Are Wearing 'Fecal Matter'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/world-cup-final-halftime-show/">Posh Wasn't At Sporty's Wedding &amp; Non-Parents Need Holidays Too</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/faith-ward-aus-interview/">You&rsquo;re &lsquo;Too Old&rsquo; For A Present &amp; We Got A Cheerleader In Trouble</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-thurs-draft-age-gap-relationships">Mia: "I Was 17, He Was 33."</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/charlize-theron-jack-antonoff-margaret-qualley/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Goodbye Sam, WTF Charlize &amp; One Very Messy Celebrity Split</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/clare-stephens-baby-hewitt-wimbledon/">Lena&rsquo;s Revenge, Harry&rsquo;s Secret Tea &amp; Clare Calls In</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&amp;ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA">Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts</a></li>
</ul>
Discover more <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/">Mamamia Podcasts here </a>including the very latest episode of <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/parenting-out-loud/">Parenting Out Loud</a>, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
SUBSCRIBE here:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol"> Support independent women's media</a>&nbsp;
You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/mamamia-out-loud/id928350893">Mamamia Out Loud on Apple</a>
What to read:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/analogue-bag-hack/">'My phone addiction was genuinely taking over my life. This is the only thing that fixed it.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/graham-norton-best-worst-guests/">"He was just exhausting." Graham Norton shares his best and worst guests.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/best-restaurant-seats/">'Sorry to all booth lovers': An extremely controversial ranking of the best and worst places to sit at restaurants.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/mamamia-out-loud-dinner-rules/">HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: Just 13 rules for friends' dinners in 2026.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://move.mamamia.com.au/">The exercise app for any body, anywhere. Move by Mamamia.</a></li>
</ul>
THE END BITS:&nbsp;
Check out our merch at<a href="https://www.mamamiaoutloud.com.au/store"> MamamiaOutLoud.com</a>
GET IN TOUCH:
Feedback? We&rsquo;re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman &amp; Emily Vernem
Acting Group Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas
Executive Producer: Grace Rouvray
Video Producer: Josh Green
Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It’s conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It&rsquo;s conversation at its most addictive.

A weekly podcast that's smart, often silly and sometimes surprising.

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