In breaking news, Netflix has released their viewing figures for the shows people are watching and more importantly not watching. And sadly for Holly, With Love, Meghan didn't fare so well—but was it still a success?

Plus, Australia is re-learning how to deal with a political leader who is *checks notes* a woman. This week's conundrum is how much detail the people are entitled to know about her and her past. But it might just be the commentary that's problematic. 

And, Jessica Biel's back broke the internet. Mia, Jessie and Holly are divided on whether the new age of celeb transparency is liberating or in fact a curse?

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Listen: The Missing Minute & The Missing Body
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Meghan Markle's show exposes the royal family's big mistake.
A brutally honest review of Meghan Markle's new Netflix series.
There's one question we're all asking since watching Adolescence. An expert just answered it.
Jessica Biel's thriller The Better Sister only tells half the story.

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In breaking news, Netflix has released their viewing figures for the shows people are watching and more importantly not&nbsp;watching. And sadly for Holly, With Love, Meghan didn't fare so well&mdash;but was it still a success?
Plus, Australia is re-learning how to deal with a political leader who is *checks notes* a woman. This week's conundrum is how much detail the people are entitled to know about her and her past. But it might just be the commentary that's problematic.&nbsp;
And, Jessica Biel's back broke the internet. Mia, Jessie and Holly are divided on whether the new age of celeb transparency is liberating or in fact a curse?
If you or someone you know is in need of support, help is available:
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What To Listen To Next:&nbsp;
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<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/holly-wainwright-holiday/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Every Nosy Question About Holly&rsquo;s Holiday Answered</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/coldplay-affair">The Coldplay Affair. And What The Internet Did Next.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-salt-path-controversy-scandal">The Salt Path Scandal That Blew Up</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/dilemmas-sibling-scams-lies/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">The Lies That We're Allowed To Tell</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/outback-killer-bradley-murdoch">The Missing Minute &amp; The Missing Body</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/justin-bieber-new-album/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">What Is Going On With Justin Bieber?</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/micro-efficiencies">Microefficiencies &amp; The Politics Of A Mean Group Chat</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Parenting Out Loud:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/this-glorious-mess/sleep-divorce-bedtime-stories">Sleep Divorce, 'Hopeless' Dads &amp; Goodnight To The Bedtime Story</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&amp;ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA">Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts&nbsp;</a></li>
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What to read:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/meghan-markle-netflix-show-opinion/">Meghan Markle's show exposes the royal family's big mistake.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/meghan-markle-netflix-review/">A brutally honest review of Meghan Markle's new Netflix series.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/netflix-adolescence-incel-ideology-boys/">There's one question we're all asking since watching Adolescence. An expert just answered it.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/the-better-sister-review/">Jessica Biel's thriller The Better Sister only tells half the story.</a></li>
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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

A weekly podcast that's smart, often silly and sometimes surprising.

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