Want more Mamamia Out Loud? Subscribe to Mamamia for unlimited access to Out Loud, five days a week.

A jersey, a boycott, and an apology. It's the story that's revealed how complicated cultural change is within an organisation as diverse yet traditional as the NRL.

Plus, Holly has 25 questions about the optics of the 'Bennifer' Honeymoon.

And, what's happened to your Instagram? 

The End Bits:

Subscribe to Mamamia

RECOMMENDATIONS: Holly wants you to watch Loot on Apple TV+

Sign up to the Mamamia Newsletter here 

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening! Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at podcast@mamamia.com.au

CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman

Producer: Emma Gillespie

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.au