Should you love your partner exactly as much as they love you? Holly, Jessie and Em can’t agree, and one of them has a bedtime ritual that might settle it. Then they name the famous couples who aren’t quite equally in love. All speculation of course. Tom and Zendaya, we're looking at you.

Plus, it started with an Amazon dish rack and a broken wine glass, and ended with a 30-part TikTok series and nine million views. Em unpacks the New York roommate war the internet couldn’t stop picking sides on, and Holly reveals some of the wild stories of her old sharehouse.

Also, Taylor Swift says Brad Paisley once released thousands of live crickets onto her tour bus. Jessie has questions about men and pranks.

And, in this week’s reccos, a TV show that’s almost too obvious to recommend (but we couldn’t help ourselves), a book people keep thinking is full of typos and a hair product Em didn’t know she needed.

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Jessie recommends Lost Lambs by Madeline Cash.

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Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

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Should you love your partner exactly as much as they love you? Holly, Jessie and Em can&rsquo;t agree, and one of them has a bedtime ritual that might settle it. Then they name the famous couples who aren&rsquo;t quite equally in love. All speculation of course. Tom and Zendaya, we're looking at you.
Plus, it started with an Amazon dish rack and a broken wine glass, and ended with a 30-part TikTok series and nine million views. Em unpacks the New York roommate war the internet couldn&rsquo;t stop picking sides on, and Holly reveals some of the wild stories of her old sharehouse.
Also, Taylor Swift says Brad Paisley once released thousands of live crickets onto her tour bus. Jessie has questions about men and pranks.
And, in this week&rsquo;s reccos, a TV show that&rsquo;s almost too obvious to recommend (but we couldn&rsquo;t help ourselves), a book people keep thinking is full of typos and a hair product Em didn&rsquo;t know she needed. We&rsquo;re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We&rsquo;re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at<a href="http://apple.co/creatorsweloveau."> apple.co/creatorsweloveau.</a>
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Em recommends <a href="https://bouf.com/collections/hair-perfume?utm_source=google&amp;amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;amp;utm_campaign=pmaxnon-brand&amp;amp;tp_gid=&amp;amp;tp_cid=22975449570&amp;amp;tp_id=&amp;amp;tp_pid=&amp;amp;tp_source=google&amp;amp;gad_source=1&amp;amp;gad_campaignid=24390779652&amp;amp;gbraid=0AAAAA_myOropi2C6Mx-DFt7o15J3uT50f&amp;amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwuobXBhBXEiwAYUaIlQ_lrFM21_AZxr45t4cW-F5xNffYibIdqA35fkIiiiQOKOTveNsmdRoCiZUQAvD_BwE">Bouffe Hair Gloss and Perfume</a>.
Jessie recommends <a href="https://www.bigw.com.au/product/lost-lambs-by-madeline-cash/p/6076074?utm_source=google&amp;amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;amp;utm_id=21753682927&amp;amp;utm_campaign=BIG+W+%7C+Play+%7C+PMax+%7C+Books&amp;amp;utm_term=&amp;amp;gclsrc=aw.ds&amp;amp;gad_source=1&amp;amp;gad_campaignid=21753684868&amp;amp;gbraid=0AAAAADkZkLi9u-JZ1bYmcoJY_a0YJrXtD&amp;amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwuobXBhBXEiwAYUaIldDaT8RyeX0P8sArv6BfyUSCxGUZnI-SlrQ6_ueLciexh89fU3Lo9BoCgzoQAvD_BwE">Lost Lambs</a> by Madeline Cash.
Holly recommends TV Show <a href="https://www.netflix.com/au/title/81288983?source=35&amp;amp;fromWatch=true">The Diplomat</a>, season 4.&nbsp;
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<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-what-the-us-midterms-mean-for-you/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">So What For Aussies If Trump "Loses" Next Week? Allow Us To Explain.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-low-maintenance-friendship/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">"Am I A Bad Friend?" Our Team's Personal Dilemmas</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/thomas-markle-allegations-meghan-markle/">This Is Not A Frivolous Royal Story &amp; Why Your Life Is Chaos Right Now</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-questions-you-need-to-ask-your-friends/">The Case Against Being Nice</a></li>
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<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/helen-haines-mp-attack/">What The Attack On Helen Haines Has Shown Us &amp; The Russell Brand Strategy</a></li>
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What to read:&nbsp;
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/townhouse-inner-city/">Share Your Space: A huge Sydney share house with a drag queen and two cats.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/zendaya-and-tom-holland-relationship/">There's a reason why you won&rsquo;t be seeing any Zendaya and Tom Holland wedding photos.</a></li>
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CREDITS:
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Acting Group Executive Producer: Georgie Page
Executive Producer: Keeshia Pettit
Video Producer: Matt Perry
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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.&nbsp;

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It’s conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It&rsquo;s conversation at its most addictive.

A weekly podcast that's smart, often silly and sometimes surprising.

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Love Gap Relationships & It Started With An Argument About A Dish Rack

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