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Outside a Massachusetts courtroom, women have travelled across the country to hold signs that read "she needed help". Jessie Stephens unpacks forensic fandom &mdash; the internet's habit of working a real trial as if it&rsquo;s a season of Lost &mdash; and why those signs might not be about Lindsay Clancy at all.
Plus, Holly Wainwright is back from holidaying in Harry and Meghan&rsquo;s new home and has a surprising (for her) new take.&nbsp;
Also, Married at First Sight is reportedly going sober, drastically cutting its alcohol rules after a series of scandals. Jessie has thoughts about whether a show built on a hand grenade survives without one.
And, Olivia Rodrigo is our crush and pin-up in a week when we need heroes, and why men are cutting off their eyelashes for a really dumb reason.
Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We&rsquo;ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to<a href="http://veryperi.com.au/"> veryperi.com.au</a> today. You hot? Same.
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<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-names-in-nicole-kidman-s-freezer-its-time-to-talk-about-choking/">The Names In Nicole Kidman&rsquo;s Freezer &amp; It's Time To Talk About Choking</a></li>
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/lindsay-clancy-kids/">Lindsay Clancy's defence is calling witnesses. They paint a picture of the months before the killings.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/lindsay-clancy-trial-mamamia-outloud/">Mamamia Out Loud special episode: The Lindsay Clancy conversation.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/meghan-harry-uk-return/">Is Meghan and Harry's return to the UK actually a big deal? An explainer.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/olivia-rodrigo/">'I had a conversation with Olivia Rodrigo and it brought up my biggest insecurity.'</a></li>
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The Lindsay Clancy Frenzy & Holly’s Surprising Harry Take

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