'Not quite right' seems to be the feedback for today. Why have six women gone to space in full glam for *checks notes* 11 minutes, only to return to earth and kiss the ground? Side note, why are Kris Jenner and Khloe Kardashian giving interviews about it? We don't remember this episode of The Simpsons. 

Similarly, why are our politicians dropping diss tracks and is this the new form that election campaigns should take from now on? Can the 2025-2026 budget be released via SoundCloud too?

Finally, given the long weekend, we thought we'd leave you with some bonus reccos as a little treat. Holly Wainwright is joined by Clare Stephens and Em Vernem for a book, a TV show and a building that aren't afraid to take up space. 

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Em wants you to read How to End a Love Story by Yulin Kuang AND go to the library.

Clare wants you to watch The Pitt on BINGE.

Holly wants you to watch Running Point on Netflix.

What To Read: 
ICYMI, it's the first girls'-trip to space.
HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: ‘I desperately needed to find some calm… So I read one very particular book and I got a hobby.’
While suffering postnatal depression, Tishara took up a hobby. It became a full-time business.

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'Not quite right' seems to be the feedback for today. Why have six women gone to space in full glam for *checks notes* 11 minutes, only to return to earth and kiss the ground? Side note, why are Kris Jenner and Khloe Kardashian giving interviews about it? We don't remember this episode of The Simpsons.&nbsp;
Similarly, why are our politicians dropping diss tracks and is this the new form that election campaigns should take from now on? Can the 2025-2026 budget be released via SoundCloud too?
Finally, given the long weekend, we thought we'd leave you with some bonus reccos as a little treat. Holly Wainwright is joined by Clare Stephens and Em Vernem for a book, a TV show and a building that aren't afraid to take up space.&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol&amp;utm_content=black-friday&amp;code=OUTLOUDFRIDAY">Support independent women's media</a>
<a href="https://www.outloudlive.com.au/">Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular&nbsp;</a>
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What to listen to next:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/clare-stephens/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Clare Stephens - We Have Questions</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/jojo-siwa-mickey-rourke-celebrity-big-brother/">A Reality TV Showdown &amp; Coachella's Three Levels Of Cool</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-age-of-diagnosis-and-de-diagnosis/">I&rsquo;d Like To Give My Diagnosis Back</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/rules-of-friendship-catch-ups/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">The Three Rules For Friendship Catch-Ups</a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/hot-mess-woman-bridget-jones"></a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-ick-of-old-friends-the-most-hated-woman-on-the-internet/"> The "Ick" Of Old Friends &amp; The Most Hated Woman On The Internet</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-white-lotus-season-3-finale/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">"We're Not OK" - The White Lotus Season 3 FinaleSubscribe</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/robert-irwin-photoshoot/">The Robert Irwin Undies Theory, Tariffs &amp; 7 Point Dressing</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&amp;ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA">Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts&nbsp;</a></li>
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Em wants you to read <a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;xs=1&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com.au%2FHow-End-Love-Story-screenwriter%2Fdp%2F139971659X">How to End a Love Story by Yulin Kuang</a> AND go to the library.
Clare wants you to watch <a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;xs=1&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fbinge.com.au%2Fshows%2Fshow-the-pitt!31146">The Pitt on BINGE.</a>
Holly wants you to watch <a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;xs=1&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.netflix.com%2Fau%2Ftitle%2F81483318">Running Point on Netflix</a>.
What To Read:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/katy-perry-heading-to-space">ICYMI, it's the first girls'-trip to space.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/growing-a-veggie-patch/">HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: &lsquo;I desperately needed to find some calm&hellip; So I read one very particular book and I got a hobby.&rsquo;</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/kykoe/">While suffering postnatal depression, Tishara took up a hobby. It became a full-time business.</a></li>
</ul>
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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

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