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Prince Andrew - the royal problem that just won't go away - has done just that, by giving up his royal titles. So, Amelia Lester and Claire Murphy join our royal correspondent Holly Wainwright to try understand - why now?
Plus, does high fashion actually hate women? From a dress that looks more like a cocoon, to an ensemble that includes a mask covering Kim Kardashian's entire face and a corset so tight your body actually spills out of it, it begs the question, who exactly is buying it?
And, in Gwyneth-adjacent news, a new Netflix series is letting famous people have the last word from beyond the grave. So if you could have the last word, what would you say?
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Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

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A Royal Vanishing Act & Does Fashion Hate Women?

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