There are some things that just shouldn't go up a vagina. And no, we’re not just talking deodorants and douches. OF COURSE WE’RE NOT. This particular No Fly Zone for lady gardens includes DJs and drummers. But what would you add and why? 

Plus, why and how has Katy Perry become the internet's favourite punching bag? Following her Blue Origin space flight fiasco and controversial tour launch, Mia, Jessie and Holly dive into the brutal world of pop star reinvention. 

And, it's our recommendations. The TV twist that had Holly crying, the show Outlouders have been begging us to cover, and the product that's turned Jessie into checks notes an unexpected wall enthusiast.

And our Best & Worst: some particularly fine acts of micropettiness, a tiny clothes conundrum and an eye-opening read.

What To Listen To Next: 
Listen to our latest episode: What If Love Never Finds You? 
Listen: Mia On The Met Gala 2025 – Fashion, Lore & Drama
Listen: WTF Just Happened? The Election, Prince Harry & Nagi
Listen: Mia On The Met Gala 2025 – Fashion, Lore & Drama
Listen: Uh Oh. The Most Low Status Way To Dress
Listen: The Question We're Finally Ready To Answer

Recommendations: 

Mia wants you to watch the Four Seasons on Netflix.

Jessie wants you to clean your walls with Selleys sugar soap cleaning wipes.

Holly wants you to watch The Last of Us, season 2.

Holly, Mia & Jessie want you to read A Year of Healing

Plus watch Season 2 of Strife 

What to read:
7 important details you might have missed in Katy Perry's Woman’s World music video.
OPINION: The fatal flaw that's already derailed Katy Perry's relaunch.
Why you've never really seen Beyonce's youngest kids until now.

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Credits

Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producers: Coco & Tessa

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

There are some things that just shouldn't go up a vagina. And no, we&rsquo;re not just talking deodorants and douches. OF COURSE WE&rsquo;RE NOT. This particular No Fly Zone for lady gardens includes DJs and drummers. But what would you add and why?&nbsp;
Plus, why and how has Katy Perry become the internet's favourite punching bag? Following her Blue Origin space flight fiasco and controversial tour launch, Mia, Jessie and Holly dive into the brutal world of pop star reinvention.&nbsp;
And, it's our recommendations. The TV twist that had Holly crying, the show Outlouders have been begging us to cover, and the product that's turned Jessie into checks notes an unexpected wall enthusiast.
And our Best &amp; Worst: some particularly fine acts of micropettiness, a tiny clothes conundrum and an eye-opening read.
What To Listen To Next:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/looking-for-love/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">What If Love Never Finds You?&nbsp;</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/met-gala-2025/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Mia On The Met Gala 2025 &ndash; Fashion, Lore &amp; Drama</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/prince-harry-security-court-case">WTF Just Happened? The Election, Prince Harry &amp; Nagi</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/met-gala-2025">Mia On The Met Gala 2025 &ndash; Fashion, Lore &amp; Drama</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/personal-style">Uh Oh. The Most Low Status Way To Dress</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/ask-us-anything-hecklers-and-recommendations">The Question We're Finally Ready To Answer</a></li>
</ul>
Recommendations:&nbsp;
Mia wants you to watch the <a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;amp;xs=1&amp;amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.netflix.com%2Fau%2Ftitle%2F81750702">Four Seasons on Netflix.</a>
Jessie wants you to clean your walls with <a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;xs=1&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com.au%2FSelleys-Cleaning-Stains-Grease-Preparation%2Fdp%2FB07V5LZQ1R">Selleys sugar soap cleaning wipes.</a>
Holly wants you to watch <a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;amp;xs=1&amp;amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.primevideo.com%2Fdetail%2FThe-Last-of-Us%2F0NGQA280ZS36ZTO516AVFUR1IZ">The Last of Us, season 2.</a>
Holly, Mia &amp; Jessie want you to read <a href="https://ayearofhealing.substack.com/">A Year of Healing</a>
Plus watch <a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;amp;xs=1&amp;amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fbinge.com.au%2Fshows%2Fshow-strife!24751">Season 2 of Strife</a>&nbsp;
What to read:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/katy-perry-womans-world-music-video/">7 important details you might have missed in Katy Perry's Woman&rsquo;s World music video.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/katy-perry-comeback/">OPINION: The fatal flaw that's already derailed Katy Perry's relaunch.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/blue-ivy-carter-now/">Why you've never really seen Beyonce's youngest kids until now.</a></li>
</ul>
GET IN TOUCH:
Feedback? We&rsquo;re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au
Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message
Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.
Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud
Credits
Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens &amp; Holly Wainwright
Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas
Audio Producer: Leah Porges
Video Producer: Josh Green
Junior Content Producers: Coco &amp; Tessa
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

A weekly podcast that's smart, often silly and sometimes surprising.

Mamamia Out Loud

The Most Mocked Woman In The World

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