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'I'm a psychologist and there's an easy experiment I recommend everyone try.'
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Katy Perry, Kylie Jenner, Alex Cooper, we have a question. What&rsquo;s with &ldquo;Daddy&rdquo;? And should we have the ick?
Also, are you in a reading-gap relationship?&nbsp;
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And check-in with Em&rsquo;s analogue, friction-maxxing life. It&rsquo;s going great.
Recommendations
Em recommends <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHWlvwu8t1w">The Mandalorian and Grogu</a>,<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHWlvwu8t1w"></a>&nbsp;the latest Star Wars movie. &nbsp;
Clare recommends <a href="https://fave.co/43zfpxq">Is It Too Early To Bitch</a> by Grace Rouvray.&nbsp;
Holly recommends <a href="https://iview.abc.net.au/show/urzila">Urzila</a> on ABC iview&nbsp;
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<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/alex-cooper-baby/">A Woman Got Pregnant &amp; &lsquo;Betrayed Us All&rsquo;</a></li>
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<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/donald-trump-wedding/">Bed Shaming &amp; A Terrible Excuse To Skip Your Son&rsquo;s Wedding</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/rivals-off-campus-martin-short/">It's Sexy TV Season &amp; An Embarrassing Email Mistake</a></li>
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/what-is-going-on-with-katy-perry/">'Something doesn't seem right.' A theory about Katy Perry's tour and the relentless backlash.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/timothee-chalamet-and-kylie-jenner/">'It makes zero sense on paper. But I've finally figured out why Kylie and Timoth&eacute;e work.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/best-books-to-get-you-out-of-a-reading-slump/">These 7 books will cure your reading slump immediately.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/psychology-hacks/">'I'm a psychologist and there's an easy experiment I recommend everyone try.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/analogue-bag-hack/">'My phone addiction was genuinely taking over my life. This is the only thing that fixed it.'</a></li>
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens &amp; Emily Vernem
Group Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock
Executive Producer: Grace Rouvray
Video Producer: Josh Green
Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It’s conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It&rsquo;s conversation at its most addictive.

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Reading-Gap Relationships & The 'Daddy' Of It All

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