Friends, did you wake up to the news that Today host Karl Stefanovic had been sacked from Nine?SAME. 
And was our group chat pinging? OF COURSE.

Which can only mean one thing, Outlouders. An emergency meeting just had to happen.

In today's extra episode, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright unpack the absolute chaos of Karl’s contract ending, the playbook of the 'canceled' media mogul, and whether there's room for this many loud, middle-aged men in podcasting.

On the agenda, we:
Look at why that interview on Karl's podcast with Far Right UK activist Tommy Robinson was the final straw for Nine.


Ask if a 'canceled' host can still win a Logie?


Examine the rise of the Independent Bro-Empire. 

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Friends, did you wake up to the news that Today host Karl Stefanovic had been sacked from&nbsp;Nine? SAME.&nbsp; And was our group chat pinging? OF COURSE. Which can only mean one thing, Outlouders. An emergency meeting just had to happen. In today's extra episode, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright unpack the absolute chaos of Karl&rsquo;s contract ending, the playbook of the 'canceled' media mogul, and whether there's room for this many loud, middle-aged men in podcasting.
On the agenda, we:
<ul>
<li data-path-to-node="4,0,1">Look at why that interview on Karl's podcast with Far Right UK activist Tommy Robinson was the final straw for Nine.</li>
<li>
Ask if a 'canceled' host can still win a Logie?
</li>
<li>
Examine the rise of the Independent Bro-Empire.&nbsp;
</li>
</ul>
What do you think, Outlouders? Has Karl played this perfectly? Or is this a spectacular own goal? Let us know your thoughts in the Outlouders Facebook Group.
Support independent women&rsquo;s media and get our biggest offer of the year.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol&amp;code=MMEOFY30">Subscribe here </a>for 30% off your annual Mamamia subscription. Code applied at the checkout. Offer ends June 30.
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<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/pauline-hanson-paid-parental-leave/">'Australia Aged Me 13 Years' &amp; Did Pauline Hanson Say That?</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-taylor-swift-bachelorette-party/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Two Bachelorettes, Zero Chill: Taylor&rsquo;s Mystery Party</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/olivia-wilde-harry-styles/">A Very Cranky William &amp; A Very Wicked Woman</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/rivals-cooking-takeaway/">'I Can&rsquo;t Cook' Is The New 'I Don&rsquo;t Want Kids'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-jessie-stephens-twin-mum/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">&lsquo;My Hardest Night As A Mum&rsquo;: Jessie's 3-Month Check-In</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/tom-holland-zendaya-marriage/">So The Wedding Has Happened &amp; Kyle Sandilands' Big D*ck Deal</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/ariana-grande-tour/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">The Ariana Grande Panic</a></li>
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EMERGENCY MEETING: Karl, Tommy & The Sack

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