Yes, it only lasts for 24 hours but this year, Mother's Day brought a stark realisation with it: an etiquette guide for the day is way overdue. And on today's ep, Mia, Jessie and Holly happily provide one. 

Plus, subpoenas and spirals. Taylor Swift has been dragged into the Justin Baldoni v Blake Lively lawsuit, but what does that actually mean? Our hosts break down the legal drama and what's truly at stake.

Meanwhile, Justin Bieber's recent behaviour has fans worried. Is this what happens when fame finds you at 12, or is something else going on behind those worrying Instagram posts?

And Nick Cave's phone-smashing concert policy. We explore the bizarre reality of performers facing audiences who prefer to film themselves over experiencing the show itself.

What To Listen To Next: 
Listen to our latest episode: The Most Mocked Woman In The World
Listen: What If Love Never Finds You? 
Listen: Mia On The Met Gala 2025 – Fashion, Lore & Drama
Listen: WTF Just Happened? The Election, Prince Harry & Nagi
Listen: Mia On The Met Gala 2025 – Fashion, Lore & Drama
Listen: Uh Oh. The Most Low Status Way To Dress

What to read:
Justin Bieber just told us exactly what’s going on with him. It’s made the speculation worse.
The Hailey Bieber 'documentary' everyone’s talking about, and everything that happened since.
Taylor Swift has been subpoenaed in the Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni case. Her response says it all.
If you have a new mum in your life, Mother’s Day is hers.

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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Yes, it only lasts for 24 hours but this year, Mother's Day brought a stark realisation with it: an etiquette guide for the day is way overdue. And on today's ep, Mia, Jessie and Holly happily provide one.&nbsp;
Plus, subpoenas and spirals. Taylor Swift has been dragged into the Justin Baldoni v Blake Lively lawsuit, but what does that actually mean? Our hosts break down the legal drama and what's truly at stake.
Meanwhile, Justin Bieber's recent behaviour has fans worried. Is this what happens when fame finds you at 12, or is something else going on behind those worrying Instagram posts?
And Nick Cave's phone-smashing concert policy. We explore the bizarre reality of performers facing audiences who prefer to film themselves over experiencing the show itself.
What To Listen To Next:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/katy-perry-tour-criticism/">The Most Mocked Woman In The World</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/looking-for-love/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">What If Love Never Finds You?&nbsp;</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/met-gala-2025/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Mia On The Met Gala 2025 &ndash; Fashion, Lore &amp; Drama</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/prince-harry-security-court-case">WTF Just Happened? The Election, Prince Harry &amp; Nagi</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/met-gala-2025">Mia On The Met Gala 2025 &ndash; Fashion, Lore &amp; Drama</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/personal-style">Uh Oh. The Most Low Status Way To Dress</a></li>
</ul>
What to read:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/justin-bieber-wellbeing-statement/">Justin Bieber just told us exactly what&rsquo;s going on with him. It&rsquo;s made the speculation worse.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/hailey-bieber-7-part-series/">The Hailey Bieber 'documentary' everyone&rsquo;s talking about, and everything that happened since.</a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/katy-perry-womans-world-music-video/"></a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-trial/">Taylor Swift has been subpoenaed in the Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni case. Her response says it all.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/mums-first-mothers-day/">If you have a new mum in your life, Mother&rsquo;s Day is hers.</a></li>
</ul>
GET IN TOUCH:
Feedback? We&rsquo;re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au
Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message
Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.
Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

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Blake, Justin & The Taylor Swift Defence

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