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And, relationships. What do the top five percent of them have in common and why is it so horrifying to Em? Group therapy is in session.

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An ageing Boomer bad boy and a queer 21-year-old multi-millionairess locked in a house together. What could possibly go wrong? Quite a lot actually. Many thoughts. We discuss what happened with Jojo Siwa and Mickey Rourke on Celebrity Big Brother.
Plus, there were lots of cool people in the desert this weekend, paying $20 AUD for a 'super duper' shower. That's right, it's Coachella season. As always, the fashion is arguably the main festival headliner, and hosts Holly Wainwright, friend of the pod Em Vernem and the legend that is Clare Stephens, define the different levels of cool within this influencer world.&nbsp;&nbsp;
And, relationships. What do the top five percent of them have in common and why is it so horrifying to Em? Group therapy is in session.
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