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No one quite knows how to feel as we start to process the shock passing of Chef and TV Host Jock Zonfrillo. There’s grief and confusion, and some unanswered questions. In this episode we ask ourselves - what are we the public owed when a high-profile person dies?

Plus, the fanciest party of the year has just occurred, and while the Met Gala headlines speak to a runway of spectacular dresses, we can’t stop thinking about cats, cancellation, and Karl Lagerfeld.

And the major etiquette rule we love that is very simple in theory, but incredibly difficult to actually do.

The End Bits

Read Jessie's article: We know that Jock Zonfrillo died suddenly. But here's what we do not know.

Listen to our last episode: Three Women, Three Friendship Break-Ups

RECOMMENDATIONS:Jessie wants you to watch John Mulaney's comedy special, Baby J on Netflix. 

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No one quite knows how to feel as we start to process the shock passing of Chef and TV Host Jock Zonfrillo. There’s grief and confusion, and some unanswered questions. In this episode we ask ourselves - what are we the public owed when a high-profile person dies?
Plus, the fanciest party of the year has just occurred, and while the Met Gala headlines speak to a runway of spectacular dresses, we can’t stop thinking about cats, cancellation, and Karl Lagerfeld.
And the major etiquette rule we love that is very simple in theory, but incredibly difficult to actually do.
The End Bits Read Jessie's article: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/jock-zonfrillo-cause-of-death/">We know that Jock Zonfrillo died suddenly. But here's what we do not know.</a>
Listen to our last episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/friendship-breakups/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Three Women, Three Friendship Break-Ups</a>
RECOMMENDATIONS: Jessie wants you to watch John Mulaney's comedy special, <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81619082">Baby J on Netflix</a>. 
Sign up to the <a href="https://newsletters.mamamia.com.au/outloud">Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter </a>for all our recos from the week in one place.
GET IN TOUCH:
Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at <a href="mailto:outloud@mamamia.com.au">outloud@mamamia.com.au</a>
Join our Facebook group <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/outlouders">Mamamia Outlouders</a> to talk about the show.
CREDITS:
Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, and Holly Wainwright Executive Producer: Talissa Bazaz
Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin
Audio Producer: Leah Porges
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.
Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.au

Smart, often silly and sometimes surprising. Absolutely everything is up for discussion: from pop culture to politics, body image to motherhood, feminism to fashion. Join Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright and Jessie Stephens as they dissect the news and issues of the week.

Smart, often silly and sometimes surprising. Absolutely everything is up for discussion: from pop culture to politics, body image to motherhood, feminism to fashion. Join Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright and Jessie Stephens as they dissect the news and issues of the week.

A weekly podcast that's smart, often silly and sometimes surprising.

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