"Sorry, can't come. I've got too much work on." We're diving deep into the glorification of hustle culture, examining what a 'balanced' life actually looks like in 2025, and exploring why some of us genuinely love living for the work (no judgement, just questions).

🍿 Your weekend sorted: We've got the new Aussie show everyone's talking about, the American comedy that's giving us joy, and the Oscar contender that's worth every minute of its runtime. Trust us.

✨ And in Best & Worst: Mia has some thoughts about her boobs (spoiler: it's a journey), an icon's empire crumbles, and a TV cancellation has us questioning everything.

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Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular 

What To Listen To Next: 
Listen to our latest episode: We're Desperate To Talk About 'Nightbitch'
Listen: Anna Paul & The Anatomy Of A Very 2025 Feud
Listen: The Grammys In Superficial Detail
Listen: Kate Ritchie Knows She’s “Not OK”, Thanks
Listen: A Generation Of Try-Hards
Listen: The Tyranny Of Looking Like You Haven't Tried
Listen: We’re In Act 2 Of Lively v. Baldoni And We Hate It Here
Listen: Scurrilous Gossip: The Aniston-Obama "Affair"
Listen: The Doco Mia Could Not Watch
Listen to our new podcast BIZ
Listen to Extraordinary Stories Belle Gibson
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

The End Bits: 

Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 

Recommendations: 

Mia wants you to watch Apple Cider Vinegar on Netflix 

Holly wants you to watch A Complete Unknown at the movies

Jessie wants you to watch Severance Season 2 on Apple TV+

What To Read: 
Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025
Read: Switching off from work can be hard, but taking a real break is important for your health.
Read: How Gen Z killed the #girlboss.

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green 

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

"Sorry, can't come. I've got too much work on." We're diving deep into the glorification of hustle culture, examining what a 'balanced' life actually looks like in 2025, and exploring why some of us genuinely love living for the work (no judgement, just questions).
🍿 Your weekend sorted: We've got the new Aussie show everyone's talking about, the American comedy that's giving us joy, and the Oscar contender that's worth every minute of its runtime. Trust us.
✨ And in Best &amp; Worst: Mia has some thoughts about her boobs (spoiler: it's a journey), an icon's empire crumbles, and a TV cancellation has us questioning everything.
<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol&amp;utm_content=black-friday&amp;code=OUTLOUDFRIDAY">Support independent women's media</a>
<a href="https://www.outloudlive.com.au/">Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular&nbsp;</a>
What To Listen To Next:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/nightbitch-movie-amy-adams/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">We're Desperate To Talk About 'Nightbitch'</a></li>
<li>Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/anna-paul-mikaela-testa-feud">Anna Paul &amp; The Anatomy Of A Very 2025 Feud</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/2025-grammy-awards/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">The Grammys In Superficial Detail</a></li>
<li>Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/kate-ritchie-video-response">Kate Ritchie Knows She&rsquo;s &ldquo;Not OK&rdquo;, Thanks</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/gen-z-crossbody-bags">A Generation Of Try-Hards</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/how-to-look-effortless/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">The Tyranny Of Looking Like You Haven't Tried</a></li>
<li>Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/justin-baldoni-blake-lively">We&rsquo;re In Act 2 Of Lively v. Baldoni And We Hate It Here</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/jennifer-aniston-barack-obama-affair-rumours/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Scurrilous Gossip: The Aniston-Obama "Affair"</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/bryan-johnson-dont-die-documentary/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">The Doco Mia Could Not Watch</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/biz/">Listen to our new podcast BIZ</a></li>
<li>Listen to <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/extraordinary-stories/belle-gibson-episode-1/">Extraordinary Stories Belle Gibson</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&amp;ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA">Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts&nbsp;</a></li>
</ul>
The End Bits:&nbsp;
Sign up to the <a href="https://mamamiaoutloud.substack.com/">Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter </a>for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place.&nbsp;
Recommendations:&nbsp;
Mia wants you to watch <a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;xs=1&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.netflix.com%2Fau%2Ftitle%2F81637595">Apple Cider Vinega</a>r on Netflix&nbsp;
Holly wants you to watch <a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;xs=1&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hoyts.com.au%2Fmovies%2Fa-complete-unknown">A Complete Unknown</a>&nbsp;at the movies
Jessie wants you to watch <a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;xs=1&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Ftv.apple.com%2Fau%2Fshow%2Fseverance%2Fumc.cmc.1srk2goyh2q2zdxcx605w8vtx%3Fmttn3pid%3DGoogle%2520AdWords%26mttnagencyid%3Da5e%26mttncc%3DAU%26mttnsiteid%3D143238%26mttnsubad%3DOAU2019927_1-729342384660-c%26mttnsubkw%3D135370895954__H9HjGn1r_%26mttnsubplmnt%3D_adext_">Severance Season 2 </a>on Apple TV+
What To Read:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/mamamia-out-loud-live-tickets/">Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025</a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/donald-trump-inauguration-2025/"></a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/how-to-avoid-burn-out/">Switching off from work can be hard, but taking a real break is important for your health.</a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/how-we-work-in-2025/">How Gen Z killed the #girlboss.</a></li>
</ul>
GET IN TOUCH:
Feedback? We&rsquo;re listening. Send us an email at <a href="mailto:outloud@mamamia.com.au">outloud@mamamia.com.au</a>
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<ul></ul>
CREDITS:
Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman &amp; Jessie Stephens&nbsp;
Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas
Audio Producer: Leah Porges
Video Producer: Josh Green&nbsp;
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

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