She's had her childhood photo used in an "ugly" meme that's all over the Internet. So why isn't host Clare Stephens upset about this dissing of her younger self? 

Also: "You called me, you speak first". Does Gen Z really answer the phone with... nothing? 

And, just literally do things. That's the message here to challenge the recent cultural domination of the 'overthinking introvert'. In all kinds of areas of your life, is it always better to underthink, jump fast and have a bias to action, like our self-help overlord Mel Robbins? And why is it easier for some people than others? 

Plus, Holly's midlife tattoo. Crisis or confidence? And why LinkedIn is cutting Tinder's grass on the matchmaking front. 

All this unpacked and shaken upside down by Clare, Emily Vernem and Holly Wainwright on today's Mamamia Out Loud. 

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Clare recommends All Her Fault on Binge. 

Holly recommends the Embryolisse Lait Creme Concentre the 24hour Miracle Cream 75ml. 

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'You’re routinely underestimated.' The 9 untold benefits of being an ugly child.
'I went to a sports dating event and it taught me a harsh lesson about my dating profile.'
Mel Robbins told us her advice for getting everything you want in life. It's surprisingly simple.
The 'let them' theory changed 2 million people's lives. The 'who says' theory is the easy alternative.
Struggling to focus this year? Try the 5 second rule.
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Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

She's had her childhood photo used in an "ugly" meme that's all over the Internet. So why isn't host Clare Stephens upset about this dissing of her younger self?&nbsp;
Also: "You called me, you speak first". Does Gen Z really answer the phone with... nothing?&nbsp;
And, just literally do things. That's the message here to challenge the recent cultural domination of the 'overthinking introvert'. In all kinds of areas of your life, is it always better to underthink, jump fast and have a bias to action, like our self-help overlord Mel Robbins? And why is it easier for some people than others?&nbsp;
Plus, Holly's midlife tattoo. Crisis or confidence? And why LinkedIn is cutting Tinder's grass on the matchmaking front.&nbsp;
All this unpacked and shaken upside down by Clare, Emily Vernem and Holly Wainwright on today's Mamamia Out Loud.&nbsp;
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Em recommends <a href="https://fave.co/4rbvXpL">Pluribus</a> on Apple TV.&nbsp;&nbsp;
Clare recommends <a href="https://fave.co/4oOuNyX">All Her Fault</a> on Binge.&nbsp;
Holly recommends the <a href="https://fave.co/4icsu6s">Embryolisse Lait Creme Concentre</a> the 24hour Miracle Cream 75ml.&nbsp;
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<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/list-of-embarrassing-things/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Everything That Shouldn't Be Embarrassing But Absolutely Is</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/blepharoplasty-hooded-eye-surgery/">So That's The Reason I Feel Bad About&hellip; My Eyelids?</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/big-brother-australia/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Big Brother Australia, The Golden Bachelor &amp; The TV &lsquo;Algorithm Theory&rsquo;</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/fired-for-cheating">Get My Boss Out Of My Bed &amp; The Last Relationship Taboo</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/women-who-squirt">Squirting, Dawn Culture &amp; The Most Motivating Word</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/romeo-and-juliet/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Letters To Juliet &amp; 'The One' Question Everyone Is Asking</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/too-old-to-have-kids">The 'Australia Effect' &amp; Meghan and Harry's Curious Party Edit</a></li>
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What to read:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/ugly-child">'You&rsquo;re routinely underestimated.' The 9 untold benefits of being an ugly child.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/sports-dating-event">'I went to a sports dating event and it taught me a harsh lesson about my dating profile.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/mel-robbins-no-filter/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Mel Robbins told us her advice for getting everything you want in life. It's surprisingly simple.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/who-says-theory">The 'let them' theory changed 2 million people's lives. The 'who says' theory is the easy alternative.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/five-second-rule-productivity">Struggling to focus this year? Try the 5 second rule.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/all-her-fault-true-story-fact-fiction">All Her Fault depicts every parent's worst nightmare. This is the experience that inspired it.</a></li>
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Emily Vernem, Clare Stephens &amp; Holly Wainwright
Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock
Audio Producer: Leah Porges
Video Producer: Josh Green
Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

A weekly podcast that's smart, often silly and sometimes surprising.

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‘I Was An Ugly Child’ & The 5-Second Underthinking Rule

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