Would you ask a date what they earn? A BBC piece found plenty of people who’d rather not, but Em Vernem has a strict rule she adheres to — Holly's Britishness hates it.

Also, quiet quitting is over. Loud working, with emails scheduled for 2am, is the new survival strategy.

And the new Rules of Rudeness. If you bring a bottle of wine to a friend’s house, are you allowed to drink it? Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright can't agree, and it’s just one of the social rules nobody explained to us. Holly has gone off small talk. Nobody else has.

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Would you ask a date what they earn? A BBC piece found plenty of people who&rsquo;d rather not, but Em Vernem has a strict rule she adheres to &mdash; Holly's Britishness hates it. Also, quiet quitting is over. Loud working, with emails scheduled for 2am, is the new survival strategy. And the new Rules of Rudeness. If you bring a bottle of wine to a friend&rsquo;s house, are you allowed to drink it? Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright can't agree, and it&rsquo;s just one of the social rules nobody explained to us. Holly has gone off small talk. Nobody else has. Plus, Jessie Stephens needs Halloween costume ideas for her twins. Please give us your cutest suggestions in the Outlouders Facebook group!
We&rsquo;re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We&rsquo;re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at<a href="http://apple.co/creatorsweloveau."> apple.co/creatorsweloveau.</a>
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/corporate-burnout-grief/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">'I spent a week doing everything I could to get fired. Then my boss called me into his office.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/social-etiquette-to-live-by/">Modern-day social etiquette you should live and die by.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/money-conversations-in-relationships/">"Don&rsquo;t delay it." The 5 money conversations every couple needs to have.</a></li>
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Executive Producer: Keeshia Pettit
Video Producer: Matt Perry
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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It’s conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It&rsquo;s conversation at its most addictive.

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The New Ways To Be Rude & “How Much Do You Earn?”

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