Is it time we retired the 'loveable disaster' trope? With Bridget Jones returning to our screens — still chaotic as ever — we're asking why society gets uncomfortable when women don't grow out of their Hot Mess Era. When does burning the spag bol stop being endearing and start being... annoying?

Plus:

📚 Your next great read: Mia and Jessie share the books you'll want to add to your bedside table.
📺 Holly's comfort TV recco for when you need to switch off.

And in Best & Worst: Red carpet drama, epic tantrums, and a heated debate about Bunnings' sausage sizzle etiquette. 🌭



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Listen: A Very Honest Review Of Nicole Kidman's 'Baby Girl'
Listen: The True Story Of A Liar: Belle Gibson & Apple Cider Vinegar
Listen: Micropettiness & A Generation Of Try-Hards
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Recommendations: 

Mia wants you to read Once Upon A Time: The Captivating Life of Carolyn Bassett Kennedy By Elizabeth Beller

Holly wants you to watch Muster Dogson ABC iView 

Jessie wants you to read The Wedding People: A Novel by Alison Espach

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Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025
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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green 

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Is it time we retired the 'loveable disaster' trope? With Bridget Jones returning to our screens &mdash; still chaotic as ever &mdash; we're asking why society gets uncomfortable when women don't grow out of their Hot Mess Era. When does burning the spag bol stop being endearing and start being... annoying?
Plus:
📚 Your next great read: Mia and Jessie share the books you'll want to add to your bedside table. 📺 Holly's comfort TV recco for when you need to switch off.
And in Best &amp; Worst: Red carpet drama, epic tantrums, and a heated debate about Bunnings' sausage sizzle etiquette. 🌭 
<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol&amp;utm_content=black-friday&amp;code=OUTLOUDFRIDAY">Support independent women's media</a>
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What To Listen To Next:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-great-attention-thief/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">The Great Attention Thief</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/adelaide-mother-confronts-school-bully">The Bully, The Mum &amp; The Aftermath Of A Viral Video</a></li>
<li>Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/baby-girl-movie-nicole-kidman/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">A Very Honest Review Of Nicole Kidman's 'Baby Girl'</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-true-story-of-a-liar-belle-gibson-apple-cider">The True Story Of A Liar: Belle Gibson &amp; Apple Cider Vinegar</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/gen-z-crossbody-bags">Micropettiness &amp; A Generation Of Try-Hards</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/is-it-ok-to-work-all-the-time">"Mummy, I Can See Her Bum"</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/nightbitch-movie-amy-adams/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">We're Desperate To Talk About 'Nightbitch'</a></li>
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Recommendations:&nbsp;
Mia wants you to read&nbsp;<a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;xs=1&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com.au%2FOnce-Upon-Time-Captivating-Bessette-Kennedy%2Fdp%2F1982178965">Once Upon A Time: The Captivating Life of Carolyn Bassett Kennedy </a>By Elizabeth Beller
Holly wants you to watch <a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;xs=1&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fiview.abc.net.au%2Fshow%2Fmuster-dogs%2Fseries%2F3%3Futm_source%3Dgoogle_search_paid%26utm_medium%3Dpaid_search%26utm_campaign%3D%255Bscreen%253Atvmain%2Babciview%253Amuster-dogs-s3%253A1024%253Agoogle_search_paid%253Atier-a%253Acpc%255D%26utm_content%3D%255Bphrase%253Apost-tx%253Ascreen%253Atvmain%2Babciview%253Amuster-dogs-s3%253A1024%253Agoogle_search_paid%253Acpc%255D%26utm_term%3D%255Bphrase%253Apost-tx%253Ascreen%253Atvmain%2Babciview%253Amuster-dogs-s3%253A1024%253Agoogle_search_paid%253Acpc%255D%26gad_source%3D1%26gclid%3DCjwKCAiAzba9BhBhEiwA7glbakJc5SIYGTCy91iNgLV3HeIcZdHDoelkzcgTfQ1vwwjuHocNMMVGxBoC2XYQAvD_BwE%26gclsrc%3Daw.ds">Muster Dogs</a> on ABC iView&nbsp;
Jessie wants you to read <a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;xs=1&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com.au%2FWedding-People-Alison-Espach%2Fdp%2F1250899575">The Wedding People: A Novel</a> by Alison Espach
What To Read:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/mamamia-out-loud-live-tickets/">Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025</a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/donald-trump-inauguration-2025/"></a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/bridget-jones-mad-about-the-boy-review/">'I'm a die-hard Bridget Jones fan and this is my honest review of the new movie.'</a></li>
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman &amp; Jessie Stephens&nbsp;
Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas
Audio Producer: Leah Porges
Video Producer: Josh Green&nbsp;
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

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The Exact Age A "Hot Mess" Is No Longer Cute

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