Holly Wainwright is deep into The Golden Bachelor, and she has one piping-hot take—but it may not be the one you're expecting. Claire Murphy and Amelia Lester are here to figure out if Hol is just secretly projecting on to a man called Bear or whether she has a point. 

And friends, you're not stressed, you're in the 'October Slump'. If time is swirling into a pre-Christmas nightmare and you can practically taste the exhaustion, the good news is that it's not just you. We've got some very necessary feedback (always a gift) for this time of year and a few survival tips.

Plus, the latest celebrity daughter has officially stepped into the spotlight. Apple Martin, daughter of Hol's 'close, personal friend' Gwyneth Paltrow and Coldplay's Chris Martin, is all of a sudden everywhere. What does her arrival mean for the nepo-baby discourse, and is she selling a vagina-scented candle yet? We discuss.

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Holly Wainwright is deep into The Golden Bachelor, and she has one piping-hot take&mdash;but it may not be the one you're expecting.&nbsp;Claire Murphy and Amelia Lester are here to figure out if Hol is just secretly projecting on to a man called Bear or whether she has a point.&nbsp;
And friends, you're not stressed, you're in the 'October Slump'. If time is swirling into a pre-Christmas nightmare and you can practically taste the exhaustion, the good news is that it's not just you. We've got some very necessary feedback (always a gift) for this time of year and a few survival tips.
Plus, the latest celebrity daughter has officially stepped into the spotlight.&nbsp;Apple Martin, daughter of Hol's 'close, personal friend' Gwyneth Paltrow and Coldplay's Chris Martin, is all of a sudden everywhere. What does her arrival mean for the nepo-baby discourse, and is she selling a vagina-scented candle yet? We discuss.
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/what-is-the-october-slump/">There's a reason why October is categorically the worst month of the year.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/october-theory/">The 'October Theory' is the reason everything just feels different right now.</a></li>
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The Exact Reason The Golden Bachelor Highlights A New Class Divide

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