Ever heard of 'Chatfishing’? Believe us, it's a thing, people, and may make you look at every message you receive in a whole new light. The trend is now to use ChatGPT for banter on dating apps and it’s leading to some awkward in-person dates. 

The bus tour you did through Europe in your twenties has now been replaced with sunrise yoga and morning run clubs. We discuss why Gen Z is too sensible for that kind of wild fun with a bunch of strangers.

Do you treat your friends like family? And should you? There are pros and cons which we unpack.

Plus, the 'cunty bob' is out, and long hair is officially back in as we enter the Rapunzel age. But is long hair now a flex or an act of personal rebellion?

And all our best reccos including a must-listen podcast, a book Em wants you to read and a go-to 80’s beauty product that's back.

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Jessie thinks you should try the Matifying Primer by Laura Mercier OR the Glowy Primer by Go To
Holly wants you to listen to This is Why We Fight and The Gift
Em wants you to read Very Impressive for your Age by Eleanor Kirk

What To Listen To Next:
Listen to our latest episode: What Did You Do Yesterday?
Listen: "A Comedian Hurt My Feelings"
Listen: Every Thought We Had About The Victoria Beckham Documentary
Listen: The Victoria Beckham Documentary Is Hard To Watch
Listen: The New High Status Boyfriend
Listen: The Problem With Compliments
Listen: The Couple Who Need To Stay Away From Each Other
Listen: LITTLE TREAT: Holly & Jessie Spill The Tea On Writing A Book
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Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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What to read:
This is why we fight.
'My hair used to look thin and dry. Then I found this $19 Korean hair oil.'
What actually works for hair loss for women? We asked an expert.
6 of the best hair growth serums that actually work.
Women everywhere are now using this 'free therapist' and there's one big catch.
The 28-year-old who has sex with her AI boyfriend.
'I'd resisted my Contiki guide all week. Then he invited me to his hotel room.'

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CREDITS:
Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright & Emily Vernem.
Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock
Audio Producer: Leah Porges
Video Producer: Josh Green
Junior Content Producers: Coco & Tessa

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Ever heard of 'Chatfishing&rsquo;? Believe us, it's a thing, people, and may make you look at every message you receive in a whole new light. The trend is now to use ChatGPT for banter on dating apps and it&rsquo;s leading to some awkward in-person dates.&nbsp;
The bus tour you did through Europe in your twenties has now been replaced with sunrise yoga and morning run clubs. We discuss why Gen Z is too sensible for that kind of wild fun with a bunch of strangers.
Do you treat your friends like family? And should you? There are pros and cons which we unpack.
Plus, the 'cunty bob' is out, and long hair is officially back in as we enter the Rapunzel age. But is long hair now a flex or an act of personal rebellion?
And all our best reccos including a must-listen podcast, a book Em wants you to read and a go-to 80&rsquo;s beauty product that's back. <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Support independent women's media</a>&nbsp;
Jessie thinks you should try the&nbsp;<a href="https://fave.co/4odZsF7" data-stringify-link="https://fave.co/4odZsF7" data-sk="tooltip_parent">Matifying Primer</a>&nbsp;by Laura Mercier OR the&nbsp;<a href="https://fave.co/47hVDJX" data-stringify-link="https://fave.co/47hVDJX" data-sk="tooltip_parent">Glowy Primer</a>&nbsp;by Go To Holly wants you to listen to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/this-is-why-we-fight/" data-stringify-link="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/this-is-why-we-fight/" data-sk="tooltip_parent">This is Why We Fight&nbsp;</a>and&nbsp;<a href="https://fave.co/4q9LXIo" data-stringify-link="https://fave.co/4q9LXIo" data-sk="tooltip_parent">The Gift</a> Em wants you to read&nbsp;<a href="https://fave.co/47nxcKH" data-stringify-link="https://fave.co/47nxcKH" data-sk="tooltip_parent">Very Impressive for your Age</a>&nbsp;by Eleanor Kirk What To Listen To Next:
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<li data-stringify-indent="0" data-stringify-border="0">Listen to our latest episode:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/what-did-you-do-yesterday/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol" data-stringify-link="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/what-did-you-do-yesterday/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol" data-sk="tooltip_parent">What Did You Do Yesterday?</a></li>
<li data-stringify-indent="0" data-stringify-border="0">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/selena-gomez-wedding-vape" data-stringify-link="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/selena-gomez-wedding-vape" data-sk="tooltip_parent">"A Comedian Hurt My Feelings"</a></li>
<li data-stringify-indent="0" data-stringify-border="0">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/victoria-beckham-doco/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol" data-stringify-link="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/victoria-beckham-doco/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol" data-sk="tooltip_parent">Every Thought We Had About The Victoria Beckham Documentary</a></li>
<li data-stringify-indent="0" data-stringify-border="0">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/victoria-beckham-documentary/" data-stringify-link="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/victoria-beckham-documentary/" data-sk="tooltip_parent">The Victoria Beckham Documentary Is Hard To Watch</a></li>
<li data-stringify-indent="0" data-stringify-border="0">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/jennifer-aniston-new-boyfriend" data-stringify-link="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/jennifer-aniston-new-boyfriend" data-sk="tooltip_parent">The New High Status Boyfriend</a></li>
<li data-stringify-indent="0" data-stringify-border="0">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-problem-with-compliments" data-stringify-link="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-problem-with-compliments" data-sk="tooltip_parent">The Problem With Compliments</a></li>
<li data-stringify-indent="0" data-stringify-border="0">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/taylor-swift-ai" data-stringify-link="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/taylor-swift-ai" data-sk="tooltip_parent">The Couple Who Need To Stay Away From Each Other</a></li>
<li data-stringify-indent="0" data-stringify-border="0">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/holly-wainwright-jessie-stephens-writing-a-book-secrets" data-stringify-link="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/holly-wainwright-jessie-stephens-writing-a-book-secrets" data-sk="tooltip_parent">LITTLE TREAT: Holly &amp; Jessie Spill The Tea On Writing A Book</a></li>
<li data-stringify-indent="0" data-stringify-border="0"><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&amp;ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA" data-stringify-link="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&amp;ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA" data-sk="tooltip_parent">Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts</a></li>
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Discover more&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/" data-stringify-link="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/" data-sk="tooltip_parent">Mamamia Podcasts here&nbsp;</a>including the very latest episode of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/parenting-out-loud/" data-stringify-link="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/parenting-out-loud/" data-sk="tooltip_parent">Parenting Out Loud</a>, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. Watch Mamamia Out Loud:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@mamamiaoutloud" data-stringify-link="https://www.youtube.com/@mamamiaoutloud" data-sk="tooltip_parent">Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube</a> What to read:
<ul data-stringify-type="unordered-list" data-list-tree="true" data-indent="0" data-border="0">
<li data-stringify-indent="0" data-stringify-border="0"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/why-we-fight/" data-stringify-link="https://www.mamamia.com.au/why-we-fight/" data-sk="tooltip_parent">This is why we fight.</a></li>
<li data-stringify-indent="0" data-stringify-border="0"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/best-korean-japanese-haircare-products/" data-stringify-link="https://www.mamamia.com.au/best-korean-japanese-haircare-products/" data-sk="tooltip_parent">'My hair used to look thin and dry. Then I found this $19 Korean hair oil.'</a></li>
<li data-stringify-indent="0" data-stringify-border="0"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/how-to-stop-hair-loss-women/" data-stringify-link="https://www.mamamia.com.au/how-to-stop-hair-loss-women/" data-sk="tooltip_parent">What actually works for hair loss for women? We asked an expert.</a></li>
<li data-stringify-indent="0" data-stringify-border="0"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/best-hair-growth-serum-australia/" data-stringify-link="https://www.mamamia.com.au/best-hair-growth-serum-australia/" data-sk="tooltip_parent">6 of the best hair growth serums that actually work.</a></li>
<li data-stringify-indent="0" data-stringify-border="0"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/ai-therapy-substitute/" data-stringify-link="https://www.mamamia.com.au/ai-therapy-substitute/" data-sk="tooltip_parent">Women everywhere are now using this 'free therapist' and there's one big catch.</a></li>
<li data-stringify-indent="0" data-stringify-border="0"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/woman-with-ai-boyfriend/" data-stringify-link="https://www.mamamia.com.au/woman-with-ai-boyfriend/" data-sk="tooltip_parent">The 28-year-old who has sex with her AI boyfriend.</a></li>
<li data-stringify-indent="0" data-stringify-border="0"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/contiki-rules/" data-stringify-link="https://www.mamamia.com.au/contiki-rules/" data-sk="tooltip_parent">'I'd resisted my Contiki guide all week. Then he invited me to his hotel room.'</a></li>
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THE END BITS: Check out our merch at&nbsp;<a href="http://mamamiaoutloud.com/" data-stringify-link="http://MamamiaOutLoud.com" data-sk="tooltip_parent">MamamiaOutLoud.com</a> <a href="https://www.fentonandfenton.com.au/" data-stringify-link="https://www.fentonandfenton.com.au/" data-sk="tooltip_parent">Mamamia studios are styled with furniture from Fenton and Fenton</a> GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We&rsquo;re listening. Send us an email at&nbsp;<a href="mailto:outloud@mamamia.com.au" data-stringify-link="mailto:outloud@mamamia.com.au" data-sk="tooltip_parent" aria-haspopup="menu">outloud@mamamia.com.au</a> Share your story, feedback, or dilemma!&nbsp;<a href="https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960" data-stringify-link="https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960" data-sk="tooltip_parent">Send us a voice message</a>. Join our Facebook group&nbsp;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/outlouders" data-stringify-link="https://www.facebook.com/groups/outlouders" data-sk="tooltip_parent">Mamamia Outlouders</a>&nbsp;to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram<a href="https://www.instagram.com/mamamiaoutloud/?hl=en" data-stringify-link="https://www.instagram.com/mamamiaoutloud/?hl=en" data-sk="tooltip_parent">&nbsp;@mamamiaoutloud</a>&nbsp;and on Tiktok<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@mamamiaoutloud" data-stringify-link="https://www.tiktok.com/@mamamiaoutloud" data-sk="tooltip_parent">&nbsp;@mamamiaoutloud</a> CREDITS: Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright &amp; Emily Vernem. Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producers: Coco &amp; Tessa Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

A weekly podcast that's smart, often silly and sometimes surprising.

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The Friends Vs Family Trap & We're All Rapunzel Now

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