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Plus, everyone's talking about the Epstein/Trump emails again and we want Amelia to answer the question: What's all this about Bill Clinton, or maybe a horse? 

And, it's only a matter of time before one of your friends starts gushing to you about their new love interest and you find out... they're not human. Please step into the world of AI 'companions', where Clare Stephens is worried that we'll lose sight of our humanity and Holly's wondering if they could take a load off. 

Also, what time do you have dinner? And, what Justin Trudeau's ex has to say (and sing) about his new relationship with Katy Perry. 

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Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

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"Chatfishing" is the new texting hack getting people more dates. There's just one problem.
It was the 'affair' that broke the internet. Nobody saw Astronomer's next move coming.
Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau just hard-launched their relationship.
Document linking famous associates of sex offender Jeffery Epstein revealed.
The death of the family dinner table.

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Does having an affair make you a bad employee? Asking for a friend. Meet the CEO who fired two employees when she found out they were cheating on their spouses. She says if you can't be trusted at home, you can't be trusted at work. Is she right?
Plus, everyone's talking about the Epstein/Trump emails again and we want Amelia to answer the question: What's all this about Bill Clinton, or maybe a horse?&nbsp;
And, it's only a matter of time before one of your friends starts gushing to you about their new love interest and you find out... they're not human. Please step into the world of AI 'companions', where Clare Stephens is worried that we'll lose sight of our humanity and Holly's wondering if they could take a load off.&nbsp;
Also, what time do you have dinner? And, what Justin Trudeau's ex has to say (and sing) about his new relationship with Katy Perry.&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Support independent women's media</a>&nbsp;
CREDITS:
Hosts: Amelia Lester, Clare Stephens &amp; Holly Wainwright
Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock
Audio Producer: Leah Porges
Video Producer: Josh Green
Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz
What To Listen To Next:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/women-who-squirt">Squirting, Dawn Culture &amp; The Most Motivating Word</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/romeo-and-juliet/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Letters To Juliet &amp; 'The One' Question Everyone Is Asking</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/too-old-to-have-kids">The 'Australia Effect' &amp; Meghan and Harry's Curious Party Edit</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/friend-affair-married-man/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">A Very Bad Decision &amp; An Imploding Friendship Group</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/kim-kardashian-alls-fair">Kim Kardashian's Zero-Star Strategy</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/sex-secrets-couples">The Great Influencer Exodus &amp; The Sex We Never Talk About</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/womans-handbags-whats-inside/?utm_source=instagram&amp;utm_medium=social&amp;utm_campaign=mmol&amp;utm_content=story">Every Single Thing We Have In Our Handbags</a></li>
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Outlouders, we're casting for Season 2 of Mamamia's&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/this-is-why-we-fight/">This Is Why We Fight</a> podcast and we'd love to hear your stories. Apply&nbsp;<a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScTKf_CLpsgfpToo8r3aJRQhSe9c2h7oCZUAPSZb9MtSKJInQ/viewform?usp=sharing&amp;ouid=104328501715380098426">here</a>.
What to read:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/what-is-chatfishing">"Chatfishing" is the new texting hack getting people more dates. There's just one problem.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/coldplay-concert-affair">It was the 'affair' that broke the internet. Nobody saw Astronomer's next move coming.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/are-katy-perry-justin-trudeau-dating">Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau just hard-launched their relationship.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/jeffrey-epstein-list">Document linking famous associates of sex offender Jeffery Epstein revealed.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/family-dinner-table">The death of the family dinner table.</a></li>
</ul>
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Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

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The New Reason You Might Be Fired

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