It popped up in The White Lotus, has reached peak celebrity level in Hollywood with everyone from Taylor Swift to Jennifer Anniston a fan, and is the latest personality test we’re using to put ourselves neatly into boxes (because chaos is exhausting). Welcome to the resurgence of the Enneagram.

On today's episode, Jessie, Holly and friend of the pod, Claire Murphy discuss why, for some, it's just a numbers game, and for others, the Enneagram is a map by which to live. 

Plus, in recommendations: Murphy brings a spicy book series, Jessie’s all over (at last) a buzzy docuseries, and Holly’s been glued to a delicious new TV binge.

And in Best & Worst: a celeb’s viral video that's very Holly.com, a cursed algorithm that haunts our hosts, and a wholesome Saturday night family feast.

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Claire recommendsThe Kingdom of Lies by Stacia Stark.

Jessie recommends Drive To Survive on Netflix. 

Holly recommends Sirens on Netflix.

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Why everyone suddenly wants to know their Enneagram personality number.
Meghan and Harry left the royal family for their kids. This is Archie and Lilibet's life now.
Meghan Markle writes a letter every night. They won't be opened for years.
'I transformed my sad beige home with dopamine decor. This is how.'
Who are 'Beige-fluencers'? And why do they want us to live such boring lives?
"WHY IS EVERYTHING... BEIGE?" An honest recap of Kim Kardashian's renovated pantry.
Are infrared saunas worth the hype? We asked a doctor to get the facts backed by science.

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Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producers: Coco & Tessa

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. 

It popped up in&nbsp;The White Lotus, has reached peak celebrity level in Hollywood with everyone from Taylor Swift to Jennifer Anniston a fan, and is the latest personality test we&rsquo;re using to put ourselves neatly into boxes (because chaos is exhausting). Welcome to the resurgence of the Enneagram.
On today's episode, Jessie, Holly and friend of the pod, Claire Murphy discuss why, for some, it's just a numbers game, and for others, the Enneagram is a map by which to live.&nbsp;
Plus, in recommendations: Murphy brings a spicy book series, Jessie&rsquo;s all over (at last) a buzzy docuseries, and Holly&rsquo;s been glued to a delicious new TV binge.
And in Best &amp; Worst: a celeb&rsquo;s viral video that's very Holly.com, a cursed algorithm that haunts our hosts, and a wholesome Saturday night family feast.
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Recommendations
Claire recommends <a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;xs=1&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bigw.com.au%2Fproduct%2Fa-court-this-cruel-and-lovely-kingdom-of-lies-book-1-by-stacia-stark%2Fp%2F892832%3Fsrsltid%3DAfmBOoqXdOSMqeFagyYapObMu52AqQBeOaH-uX_8A9wI6YG_XOu8kuv2">The Kingdom of Lies</a> by Stacia Stark.
Jessie recommends <a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;amp;xs=1&amp;amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.netflix.com%2Fau%2Ftitle%2F80204890%3Fsource%3D35%26fromWatch%3Dtrue">Drive To Survive</a> on Netflix.&nbsp;
Holly recommends <a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;amp;xs=1&amp;amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.netflix.com%2Fau%2Ftitle%2F81589551">Sirens</a> on Netflix.
Listen to Parenting Out Loud
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/this-glorious-mess/parenting-out-loud-grandparents-babysitting/">Parenting Out Loud: Grandparents &mdash; It's Time For Your Performance Review</a></li>
</ul>
What To Listen To Next:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/36-questions-for-love">The 36 Questions We All Need To Ask</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/tarot-astrology/">Tampons, Tarot &amp; The Rise Of Magical Thinking</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-case-dismissed">Bonnie Blue's Glass Box Stunt &amp; Blake Lively's Vindication</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-project-axed/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Jessie &amp; The Inside Scoop On The Project's Cancellation</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/friend-wont-pay-back-money">LITTLE TREAT: The Money Pushover &amp; A Woman Named Karen</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/caring-for-parent-dementia">A Famous Mother &amp; A Treacherous Daughter</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen to Parenting Out Loud: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/this-glorious-mess/parenting-out-loud-grandparents-babysitting">Grandparents &mdash; It's Time for Your Performance Review</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&amp;ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA">Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts&nbsp;</a></li>
</ul>
Watch Mamamia Out Loud:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@mamamiaoutloud">Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube</a>
What to read:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/enneagram-personality-number/">Why everyone suddenly wants to know their Enneagram personality number.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/meghan-markle-prince-harry-kids/">Meghan and Harry left the royal family for their kids. This is Archie and Lilibet's life now.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/meghan-markle-kids-letters/">Meghan Markle writes a letter every night. They won't be opened for years.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/dopamine-decor-maximalist-interiors-trend/">'I transformed my sad beige home with dopamine decor. This is how.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/beige-fluencers/">Who are 'Beige-fluencers'? And why do they want us to live such boring lives?</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/kim-kardashian-house-pantry/">"WHY IS EVERYTHING... BEIGE?" An honest recap of Kim Kardashian's renovated pantry.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/infrared-sauna-benefits-roadtest/">Are infrared saunas worth the hype? We asked a doctor to get the facts backed by science.</a></li>
</ul>
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Claire Murphy, Jessie Stephens &amp; Holly Wainwright
Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas
Audio Producer: Leah Porges
Video Producer: Josh Green
Junior Content Producers: Coco &amp; Tessa
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

A weekly podcast that's smart, often silly and sometimes surprising.

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The Test Everyone In Hollywood Wants You To Do

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