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Is a university degree worth striving for in 2023? As Year 12 students around Australia receive their ATARs this week, university applications are at their lowest level in a decade. We unpack.

Plus, Holly has formed a relationship theory thanks to Ben Affleck’s two (Jennifers) wives. Do we all have a 'type,' and should we avoid them?

And… is having 50+ pairs of underwear too much? (Looking at you, Mia.) We discuss if there’s a right number of knickers to own and if we should consider downsizing our underwear drawer to help our friend, the environment.

The End Bits: 
Listen to our latest episode: "My Daughter Is Making A Very, Very Bad Decision"
Read: At age 11, Indi was in debilitating pain. A doctor told her the only way to fix it was to get pregnant.
Listen to Nothing To Wear: Inside Mia Freedman's Wardrobe

RECOMMENDATION: Mia wants you to check out the 'Name A Woman' trend on TikTok.

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Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens

Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Assistant Production: Tahli Blackman

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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Is a university degree worth striving for in 2023? As Year 12 students around Australia receive their ATARs this week, university applications are at their lowest level in a decade. We unpack.
Plus, Holly has formed a relationship theory thanks to Ben Affleck’s two (Jennifers) wives. Do we all have a 'type,' and should we avoid them?
And… is having 50+ pairs of underwear too much? (Looking at you, Mia.) We discuss if there’s a right number of knickers to own and if we should consider downsizing our underwear drawer to help our friend, the environment.
The End Bits: 
<ul>
<li>Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/canon-event-listener-dilemma/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">"My Daughter Is Making A Very, Very Bad Decision"</a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/porn-stars-schoolies/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol"></a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/does-pregnancy-help-endometriosis/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">At age 11, Indi was in debilitating pain. A doctor told her the only way to fix it was to get pregnant.</a></li>
<li>Listen to Nothing To Wear: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/nothing-to-wear/mia-freedman-wardrobe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Inside Mia Freedman's Wardrobe</a></li>
</ul>
<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-baby-advice-jessie-took-from-mia-and-holly/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol"></a><a href="https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/7514277/Mamamia-Menopause-Study-2023"></a>RECOMMENDATION: Mia wants you to check out the <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/channel/name-a-woman?lang=en">'Name A Woman' trend on TikTok.</a>
Sign up to the <a href="https://newsletters.mamamia.com.au/outloud">Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter </a>for all our recommendations in one place. 
GET IN TOUCH:
Feedback? We’re listening. Leave us a voicememo or email us at <a href="mailto:outloud@mamamia.com.au">outloud@mamamia.com.au</a>
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman &amp; Jessie Stephens
Producer: Emeline Gazilas
Assistant Production: Tahli Blackman
Audio Producer: Leah Porges
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation—with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It’s conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation&mdash;with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem.&nbsp;It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It&rsquo;s conversation at its most addictive.

A weekly podcast that's smart, often silly and sometimes surprising.