“We can bury anyone: Inside a Hollywood smear machine”.

That’s the New York Times headline that meant, holiday or no holiday, we were definitely bringing you a show today. 

Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni made headlines just a few months ago for their roles in one of the year’s most-watched films, It Ends With Us. But what was happening off-screen turned out to be an even bigger story.

In this emergency meeting of Out Loud, Mia, Jessie and Holly unpack the facts behind Blake's legal complaint against her co-star and director Justin, which alleges sexual harassment and an orchestrated campaign to destroy her reputation.

Plus, what this lawsuit means for Hollywood power dynamics, celebrity reputations, and the way narratives are shaped online.

This story has implications far beyond a single movie. It’s about the intersection of art, accountability, and the manipulation of public perception in the digital age. Join us as we break it all down.

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What To Listen To Next: 
Listen to our latest episode: Meghan & Harry, Sam Armytage & Run Clubs: 2025 Predictions 
Listen: The Takedown Of Blake Lively
Listen: Confessions Of The Social Media Lurkers
Listen: The Breakup Text We Got This Week
Listen:  Get The F*ck Out Of Our Village (Please)
Listen: The Trends We Want To Return (Or Die For Good)
Listen: Jay-Z And An Audacious Family PR Strategy
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The End Bits: 
Read the New York Times Article: ‘We Can Bury Anyone’: Inside a Hollywood Smear Machine
Read Blake Lively's Legal Complaint 
1800RESPECT is the national domestic, family and sexual violence counselling, information and support service. Call 1800RESPECT (1800 737 732).

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What to read:
The internet owes Blake Lively an apology
Sexual harassment, a smear campaign and text messages. Inside Blake Lively's lawsuit against Justin Baldoni. 
Blake Lively isn't the first women to be demonised online.
Blake Lively isn't the problem

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Scott Stronach

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

&ldquo;We can bury anyone: Inside a Hollywood smear machine&rdquo;. 
That&rsquo;s the&nbsp;New York Times headline that meant, holiday or no holiday, we were definitely bringing you a show today.&nbsp;
Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni made headlines just a few months ago for their roles in one of the year&rsquo;s most-watched films, It Ends With Us. But what was happening off-screen turned out to be an even bigger story.
In this emergency meeting of Out Loud, Mia, Jessie and Holly unpack the facts behind Blake's legal complaint against her co-star and director Justin, which alleges sexual harassment and an orchestrated campaign to destroy her reputation.
Plus, what this lawsuit means for Hollywood power dynamics, celebrity reputations, and the way narratives are shaped online.
This story has implications far beyond a single movie. It&rsquo;s about the intersection of art, accountability, and the manipulation of public perception in the digital age. Join us as we break it all down.
<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol&amp;utm_content=black-friday&amp;code=OUTLOUDFRIDAY">Support independent women's media</a>
<a href="https://www.outloudlive.com.au/">Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular&nbsp;</a>
What To Listen To Next:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Listen to our latest episode:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/2025-predictions">Meghan &amp; Harry, Sam Armytage &amp; Run Clubs: 2025 Predictions</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/blake-lively-controversy/">The Takedown Of Blake Lively</a></li>
<li>Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/social-media-lurkers/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Confessions Of The Social Media Lurkers</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/breakup-over-text-advice/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">The Breakup Text We Got This Week</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/village-community-raising-children">&nbsp;Get The F*ck Out Of Our Village (Please)</a></li>
<li>Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/in-and-out-list-trends/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">The Trends We Want To Return (Or Die For Good)</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/jay-z-allegations">Jay-Z And An Audacious Family PR Strategy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&amp;ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA">Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts&nbsp;</a></li>
</ul>
The End Bits:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Read the New York Times Article:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/21/business/media/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-it-ends-with-us.html">&lsquo;We Can Bury Anyone&rsquo;: Inside a Hollywood Smear Machine</a></li>
<li>Read <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/12/21/us/complaint-of-blake-lively-v-wayfarer-studios-llc-et-al.html">Blake Lively's Legal Complaint </a></li>
<li>1800RESPECT&nbsp;is the&nbsp;national domestic, family and sexual violence counselling, information and support service. Call 1800RESPECT (1800 737 732).</li>
</ul>
Sign up to the <a href="https://mamamiaoutloud.substack.com/">Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter </a>for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place.&nbsp;
What to read:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/blake-lively-apology/">The internet owes Blake Lively an apology</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit/">Sexual harassment, a smear campaign and text messages. Inside Blake Lively's lawsuit against Justin Baldoni.&nbsp;</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/women-who-have-been-demonised">Blake Lively isn't the first women to be demonised online.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/it-ends-with-us-domestic-violence">Blake Lively isn't the problem</a></li>
</ul>
GET IN TOUCH:
Feedback? We&rsquo;re listening. Send us an email at <a href="mailto:outloud@mamamia.com.au">outloud@mamamia.com.au</a>
Share your story, feedback, or dilemma!&nbsp;<a href="https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960" data-stringify-link="https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960" data-sk="tooltip_parent">Send us a voice message</a>
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman &amp; Jessie Stephens&nbsp;
Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas
Audio Production: Scott Stronach
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Smart, often silly and sometimes surprising. Absolutely everything is up for discussion: from pop culture to politics, body image to motherhood, feminism to fashion. Join Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright and Jessie Stephens as they dissect the news and issues of the week.

Smart, often silly and sometimes surprising. Absolutely everything is up for discussion: from pop culture to politics, body image to motherhood, feminism to fashion. Join Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright and Jessie Stephens as they dissect the news and issues of the week.

A weekly podcast that's smart, often silly and sometimes surprising.

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Emergency Meeting: The Blake Lively Smear Campaign Unpacked

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